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seldom|seen
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Joined: 2006-12-31
Posts: 735
Location: Appleton, WI

PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

(pulls foot out of mouth)

Well, it wouldn't be the first time I wrongly characterized the efforts of others. Perhaps it was just a poor choice of words. Replace "courtesy" with "foresight" and maybe the whole thing reads a little different and less critical of your efforts.

I am no stranger to public apologies either, so you have mine, pirate monkeys, for all the steps you outlined above. As you can see, you caught me on a bad week. It's tough when you are made aware that a cache is in jeopardy, but can't get to it yourself to maintain in a timely fashion.

As far as proximity to maintain, as anyone who solves this puzzle knows, that cache could not be placed anywhere else in the state without some significant re-tooling. I did what I could to get the final solve as close to home base as possible, and knowing I could get it no closer, had to rely on a trail-boss.

On the other hand, if I were out caching and came across an ammo can sitting anywhere a muggle could spot it, I would absolutely do may best to camo it where I found it or move it to make it safe. I would not just let it sit out in the open for a non-cacher to discover. I get your point about moving someone's caches, but far better to protect a cache and upset a cache owner than leave it exposed and not, only to have it disappear. Which do you think will upset a cache owner more?

On a side note. EVERYONE should learn to take some of what is written in this virtual world with a grain of salt. These are one-way conversations in a mirror and will never come across the same as they would in a person-to-person conversation. I am quite sure if I ran into the pirate monkeys in person and we had a conversation about this cache, I would have had a different experience and impression of them and they would probably not think of me the way they do now. Unfortunately, whenever you take a strong, opinionated or passionate stance in these forums, others are quick to label, despite intent or poor choice of words.

But, I have thick skin, and I am certainly not in this for the communal nature of it nor I am out to make friends. Perhaps that's where some of the vehemence comes in, since I don't fit the mold. So be it. Judge me how you will, but try to judge the intent of what I say and the intent of the caches I place and not the occasional rantings of a worked up cache owner.

For EVERYONE who steps up to help out other cache owners, for whatever reason, THANK YOU.

(sticks foot back in mouth)
 
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RSplash40
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Joined: 2006-12-23
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:43 pm Reply with quote Back to top

seldom|seen wrote:


On a side note. EVERYONE should learn to take some of what is written in this virtual world with a grain of salt. These are one-way conversations in a mirror and will never come across the same as they would in a person-to-person conversation.


Can I get a AMEN BROTHER!

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The Pirate Monkies
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Location: Kenosha, Wi.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:08 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah... I myself have used a poor choice of words recently while dealing with issues in a different WGA forum... I think that I just need to get out and cache more...

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jerrys dad
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

You can also encrypt their logs. You won't be deleting them but it will take alittle more for somebody to look at.

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TyeDyeSkyGuy
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Joined: 2007-03-18
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:27 am Reply with quote Back to top

S|S and Pirate Monkeys,

I'd like to thank you both for stating everything so well, hammering out your differences, and doing so in public. Most often these arguments start in public, and wind up in private with no resolution, or a bad outcome. You both have done the right thing by listing your differences, solving them and having the foresight to know we all have bad days. Very Happy

This community is growing, and there are a vast amount of opinions out there. No one is right, no one is wrong and we are all entitled to have our opinions, and feel the way we do at the time things happen. As S|S said earlier, statements are made, and sometimes taken not how they were intended. This seems to happen frequently, and not just here at the WGA.

I'd like to encourage more of our members to air their differences in public, so to solve them, and receive direction and input from others, rather than taking things into their own hands. We've lost many good members to hurt feelings and unresolved issues. And a few have been saved as well. My hope is that good gestures like these continue here at the WGA.

Kudos to both of you to admit mistakes, apologies, and move on.
 
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zuma
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Joined: 2006-01-30
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

TyeDyeSkyGuy wrote:
S|S and Pirate Monkeys,

I'd like to thank you both for stating everything so well, hammering out your differences, and doing so in public. Most often these arguments start in public, and wind up in private with no resolution, or a bad outcome. You both have done the right thing by listing your differences, solving them and having the foresight to know we all have bad days. Very Happy

This community is growing, and there are a vast amount of opinions out there. No one is right, no one is wrong and we are all entitled to have our opinions, and feel the way we do at the time things happen. As S|S said earlier, statements are made, and sometimes taken not how they were intended. This seems to happen frequently, and not just here at the WGA.

I'd like to encourage more of our members to air their differences in public, so to solve them, and receive direction and input from others, rather than taking things into their own hands. We've lost many good members to hurt feelings and unresolved issues. And a few have been saved as well. My hope is that good gestures like these continue here at the WGA.

Kudos to both of you to admit mistakes, apologies, and move on.


dittos. We grow and learn from our differences, when discussed openly, with honesty, kindness and mutual respect. The world would be a boring place indeed if we all agreed on everything.

z

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The Pirate Monkies
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Joined: 2008-06-28
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Location: Kenosha, Wi.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:19 pm Reply with quote Back to top

TDSG & Zuma

Gosh, Golly, Gee, and awwww shucks... My name is Greg, not Ghandi...

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peach107




Joined: 2007-08-18
Posts: 203
Location: prescott, arizona

PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:05 pm Reply with quote Back to top

bartrod wrote:
Peach, could you archive your puzzle and then move it to a different location? I know that creates a hassle for you but would solve the problem.


In this case it can't be moved. Oh well.
 
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