What will kill the game

WGA Member Joined: 2007-11-26 Posts: 3259

Mister Greenthumb wrote:

This topic is really getting stale.

The only thing that will kill the game is no satellites.

I would argue that if it were stale nobody would be talking about it.

No one forces anybody to read anything in these forums.

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:24 pm

Sorry for beating the dead horse, but ran into a scenario today that gives all cachers and geocaching a bad impression to the public.

New caches published and the page clearly states they aren't available after dark. The parking area also has a sign (where one of the caches is located) that clearly states the area is closed at dark. The one at the sign right at the parking area and is logged last night as a FTF and I blow it off as "OK" because it's near the road. No other logs on the rest, so I give the benefit of doubt that they did the right thing. I did two others on the way to work this morning and noticed lots of footprints near both GZ's. Sure enough the same cacher(s) signed these 2 logs which meant they were trespassing last night in a nature area. The online logs also clearly state the time and it's obviously well past "dark".

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:37 pm

suspicion confirmed. not suprised.

WGA Member Joined: 2007-11-26 Posts: 3259

CodeJunkie wrote:

Sorry for beating the dead horse, but ran into a scenario today that gives all cachers and geocaching a bad impression to the public.

New caches published and the page clearly states they aren't available after dark. The parking area also has a sign (where one of the caches is located) that clearly states the area is closed at dark. The one at the sign right at the parking area and is logged last night as a FTF and I blow it off as "OK" because it's near the road. No other logs on the rest, so I give the benefit of doubt that they did the right thing. I did two others on the way to work this morning and noticed lots of footprints near both GZ's. Sure enough the same cacher(s) signed these 2 logs which meant they were trespassing last night in a nature area. The online logs also clearly state the time and it's obviously well past "dark".

Maybe that falls into the "don't tell me how to play the game" category... Razz

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:51 pm

gotta run wrote:

Maybe that falls into the "don't tell me how to play the game" category... Razz

How well do you think that would work with "Officer Friendly" as he enforces the "Trespassing" LAW?

WGA Member Joined: 2009-07-04 Posts: 382

Cache owners need to take a stand and start deleting the logs that are obviously in violation. If it was my cache, that is exactly what I would do. There is a reason there are hours posted and we need to honor those hours, regardless of whether we agree with them or not. It really upsets me to think that geocachers would knowingly violate the instructions clearly posted on the cache page and at the conservancy also.

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:36 pm

Sad thing is that when the FTF Alert goes off it doesn't say anything about "hey! Read the cache page before you run off and violate the owner's wishes or the property's regulations".

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:58 pm

labrat_wr wrote:

Sad thing is that when the FTF Alert goes off it doesn't say anything about "hey! Read the cache page before you run off and violate the owner's wishes or the property's regulations".

So delete their logs, and send them an e-mail telling them why. Maybe they'll learn to take the extra minute or two to read the cache page before they charge off into the night.

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:03 pm

I have deleted logs in the past that have stated caching after dark in our cemetery caches. I have also requested a specific time for caches to go online to alleviate this problem.

Joined: 2009-06-05 Posts: 2123 Location: Menominee, MI

Got two logs from two cachers that said the cache was found but didn't have a pen to sign log?

How hard can it be to walk back to your car, get a pen, and go back to sign the log.

I would let this go except the same log was written at other local caches too.

Hmmm.. to delete or not to delete.

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:15 pm

Todd300 wrote:

Got two logs from two cachers that said the cache was found but didn't have a pen to sign log?

How hard can it be to walk back to your car, get a pen, and go back to sign the log.

I would let this go except the same log was written at other local caches too.

Hmmm.. to delete or not to delete.

I've had a similar scenario multiple times. I generally email the cacher and explain that I understand that accidents happen. I normally ask if they took a picture of the container they can send me or if they can provide anything specific about the container, hide style, etc. I tell them that I will let this substitute for the physical signature if they contact me within x days.

I get 1 of 2 responses. The 1st is "no response" in which case I delete the log after x days. The 2nd is normally very positive and they can explain something about the cache and I call it close enough.

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:32 am

Todd300 wrote:

Got two logs from two cachers that said the cache was found but didn't have a pen to sign log?

How hard can it be to walk back to your car, get a pen, and go back to sign the log.

I would let this go except the same log was written at other local caches too.

Hmmm.. to delete or not to delete.

There is always grass nearby...I have used a smear of green in the past without incident...just be sure to mention it in the log...I often grab a pic of the cache as well in case additional proof is needed.

WGA Member Joined: 2007-11-26 Posts: 3259

Yep, there is always a way to make a permanent mark of some sort on a log sheet. In those cases I usually take a picture of the log/cache as well just in case.

I do try to avoid using blood, however. Shocked

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:34 am

Crucify them, Crucify them!

...and what the Rat said, too. If we don't enforce the rules then it'll be "Cats and dogs, living together, total anarchy".

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:44 am

Walkingadventure wrote:

Crucify them, Crucify them!

...and what the Rat said, too. If we don't enforce the rules then it'll be "Cats and dogs, living together, total anarchy".

LOL. Crucify might be a bit much. I was thinking more along the lines of keelhauling and public humiliation for such a major infraction.

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