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BigJim60
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:32 am Reply with quote Back to top

zuma wrote:
Related email that I got today from a cacher in Germany who wants to log one of my challenge caches without actually visiting the cache, with the name deleted:

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do i have to write a log in the Logbook 100 Earthcaches or is it enough that we have logged more than 100?
We have made a picture at every Earthcache... you can see in our Listing

best regards from Germany

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I havent answered it yet, because I cant think of a polite way to say, "Duh, did you read the cache page?"

z

Duh! Haben Sie die cache-seite gelesen?

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Lacknothing
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:14 am Reply with quote Back to top

Read the page - it is that simple! Whether you cache paperless or not. The description is there for a purpose - and often times there is specific information in the description - such as park hours, or a request to only search for a cache during daylight hours. Also, attributes are there for a reason and they are helpful. I do not always look at them ahead of time, but with a smartphone, I often look at them in the field. Reading the page seems to be common sense to me. In my humble opinion, not reading the cache page is like not paying attention to road signs when driving.

Officer: Do you realize you were going 80 mph in a 55 mph zone?
Driver: Was it only 55 mph? I don't read road signs. I am a signless driver!
 
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beccaday
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:22 am Reply with quote Back to top

I just had my mom, that's right MY MOM!, ask on my cache page if she had to come and sign the log on my challenge cache since other people from around the country may meet the requirements but may not want to travel. Trying to phrase the right response was challenging because it was my mom. I couldn't believe it!

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BigJim60
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:24 am Reply with quote Back to top

But seriously, Ralph, I looked at your cache page and it doesn't specifically say that one must find the physical cache to log it, although most people would infer that from the write-up. You might want to state that bluntlyon your cache page ... "You must have found 100 earthcaches and this physical cache before you may log this as a find." or something along those lines. As for our friend in Germany, just tell him "I'm sorry, but in addition to being a challenge, this is also a physical cache, which you must find and sign the log for in order to log it."

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Lostby7
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:34 am Reply with quote Back to top

BigJim60 wrote:
But seriously, Ralph, I looked at your cache page and it doesn't specifically say that one must find the physical cache to log it, although most people would infer that from the write-up. You might want to state that bluntlyon your cache page ... "You must have found 100 earthcaches and this physical cache before you may log this as a find." or something along those lines. As for our friend in Germany, just tell him "I'm sorry, but in addition to being a challenge, this is also a physical cache, which you must find and sign the log for in order to log it."

I was getting the same from reading the cache page...but it is generally a given that you need to physically log the cache.

That said I do have one cache that allows a second smile without a second visit...but that is plainly written.
 
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Lacknothing
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:40 am Reply with quote Back to top

Hey Ralph...I am over halfway there to getting 100 earthcaches. Can I just log it as a find now. I promise I will do the rest soon! Very Happy
 
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zuma
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:38 am Reply with quote Back to top

BigJim60 wrote:
But seriously, Ralph, I looked at your cache page and it doesn't specifically say that one must find the physical cache to log it, although most people would infer that from the write-up. You might want to state that bluntlyon your cache page ... "You must have found 100 earthcaches and this physical cache before you may log this as a find." or something along those lines. As for our friend in Germany, just tell him "I'm sorry, but in addition to being a challenge, this is also a physical cache, which you must find and sign the log for in order to log it."


I guess I see your point. To me, it was obvious that you have to visit a cache, sign the log, before you logged on line. I guess that is not so obvious to every one. I may need to adjust the wording slightly.

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Hitman4
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:47 am Reply with quote Back to top

Lacknothing wrote:
Also, attributes are there for a reason and they are helpful. I do not always look at them ahead of time, but with a smartphone, I often look at them in the field.



Not everyone has a smartphone, Sad and the attributes are not on the Garmin.

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Lacknothing
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hitman4 wrote:
Lacknothing wrote:
Also, attributes are there for a reason and they are helpful. I do not always look at them ahead of time, but with a smartphone, I often look at them in the field.



Not everyone has a smartphone, Sad and the attributes are not on the Garmin.


I realize that - so my advice would be if look at them ahead of time or hang with someone who has a smartphone and be sure to cache only in areas where your friend gets coverage!
 
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Hitman4
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Lacknothing wrote:
Hitman4 wrote:
Lacknothing wrote:
Also, attributes are there for a reason and they are helpful. I do not always look at them ahead of time, but with a smartphone, I often look at them in the field.



Not everyone has a smartphone, Sad and the attributes are not on the Garmin.


I realize that - so my advice would be if look at them ahead of time or hang with someone who has a smartphone and be sure to cache only in areas where your friend gets coverage!


I don't have time to look at the hundreds of attributes ahead of time when my friend sends me the PQ 3 seconds before we are leaving. (smack talk) Laughing

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Averith
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:14 am Reply with quote Back to top

Don't sweat it, some people just don't want to take the time to actually look at what they are looking for. If it was that much of a problem they could have just turned back and said forget it. Some people just aren't happy unless they have something to complain about.

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mongo1965
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

actually the funny part is they want me to move it because of the thorns. Guess what there is a way in without going through them but don't think anybody has found it yet. Not only did I make it in there but dropped a deer there few years back.
 
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CacheNoTrace
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

mongo1965 wrote:
actually the funny part is they want me to move it because of the thorns. Guess what there is a way in without going through them but don't think anybody has found it yet. Not only did I make it in there but dropped a deer there few years back.


umm, can you move it to the bar so I have a shorter distance for a brew? Twisted Evil
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:09 pm Reply with quote Back to top

mongo1965 wrote:
actually the funny part is they want me to move it because of the thorns. Guess what there is a way in without going through them but don't think anybody has found it yet. Not only did I make it in there but dropped a deer there few years back.


One deer hunter to another... I'll find it.

And for those who complaining... Try looking up from your GPS unit on occasion...

And for fun, put a "LARGE" thorn attribute on the cache page...
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

actually I take it back bigjim might have found the way in just it wasn't as big as he could handle. mmmm I'll have to go back and reread his log
 
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