Fundamental Placement Guidelines

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:14 pm

GroundSpeak up dated the Guidelines yesterday. One of the updates that I would like to highlight is the burying of cache containers. Their seems to be a new trend to these types of hides in the valley. IMHO these caches are against the guidelines as per GS.

1.1. Fundamental Placement Guidelines

The buried guideline has changed to "If one has to dig or break ground to hide or to find the cache, then the cache is not permitted."

http://support.groundspeak.com//index.php?pg=kb.page&id=304

That's just my 2 cents worth. Now let the flaming begin.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:17 pm

I though it was always that way!

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:25 pm

Has always been that way in the guidelines, but what individual cache hiders do is an entirely different story. I personally haven't found any caches like this but have heard stories.

Unfortunately it's pretty difficult for the reviewers to police this issue from their end unless the cache owner says something in the cache page to indicate that the cache is buried.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:39 pm

So a fake sprinkler head would be in violation of the guidelines, since you have to break ground to place it? I wouldn't have a problem with that, since I've taken apart a few real sprinkler heads that I thought were caches Shocked

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:57 pm

what about ON fire hydrants? I thought that was a violation, but I can't find it in writing anywhere.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:42 pm

Ask Trekkin about his thoughts on fire hydrants

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:04 pm

The old guidelines had language indicating that if you needed to use an implement (the actual words were "pointy stick") to break the ground, you were violating the guidelines. Of course, that lead to people claiming that the 6 foot deep hole was made by scrabbling with their fingernails. I think they were just clarifying in this particular case.

Fire hydrants are dependent on the laws in particular communities. Some have laws prohibiting "tampering" with hydrants. I don't personally have any knowledge as to which communities have such laws.

WGA Member Joined: 2007-11-26 Posts: 3258

Enjoyed your buried cache, thanks for putting it out.

WGA Member Joined: 2007-02-03 Posts: 2180

When I heard this news I was so happy that I could finally take the shovel out of my geo-bag. I will keep it close by though to help me dig through the %#$@ that shows up here from time to time.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:25 am

Thanks for the posting meadow. You should start your own tread so we can respond appropriately.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:41 am

Looks like meadow's post went bye-bye...

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:06 am

I have only seen one cache which would violate this rule and it was placed in 2001 in the Southern Kettle...it still looks to be there...but I'm guessing it was placed well before many of the rules came into play.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:21 am

I've actually swapped for a shovel (O.K., garden spade) that was in a cache.

GC27AWN

WGA Member Joined: 2007-11-26 Posts: 3258

Don't tell me how to play the game! There are 20,000 other caches to look for in the state if you don't like these caches!

(Whoops, sorry, wrong thread!)

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:01 pm

gotta run wrote:

Don't tell me how to play the game! There are 20,000 other caches to look for in the state if you don't like these caches!

(Whoops, sorry, wrong thread!)

Wow, no need to get all upset about it. Sheesh!! Laughing