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rcflyer2242
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:02 am Reply with quote Back to top

There are some cases that a group will cache and sign an abbreviated signature. I know that I have signed in many ways myself for instance, SGRCWW, BAG, RW and a few others. I have also been known to just put a brand new penny. If it is only a few caches that no signature appears I would not sweat it but if someone cleaned out a whole area of 30 or so with no signature that would raise me eyebrow.
 
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sweetlife
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:12 am Reply with quote Back to top

When we have cached in a group and used a shortened version, I have always put that in my log. but have always signed something on the log. I would not leave a penny, coin, Pathtag, pin or something else to say I was there, as that is just swag and could be gone if the next finder takes it. Then there is no proof that you were there.

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CodeJunkie
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Joined: 2009-07-21
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:52 am Reply with quote Back to top

I have used an abbreviated signature in a few cases when caching with a small group for the day, but normally I like to sign myself.

In some cases where I've had a failed writing instrument, forgot something to write with, or lost it along the way - I generally take a photo of the log and note it in my online log. I figure being honest is the best policy and no CO has ever threatened to delete my log based on this.

As a CO though, I have deleted a few logs and also threatened to delete a few. Generally in cases where this happens, I email the CO and question them about it and ask them if perhaps they logged the wrong cache by typing the GC# incorrectly. I also ask them to try and recall something specific about the nature of the hide (i.e. container type, size, position, etc.). In most cases I let the log stand if they respond in any manner assuming it's legit. In cases of non-response or obvious fabrication I just delete the log. The deletion is a rare occurence though.

I've also heard that some groups don't stop to sign the log on P&G caches. They drive by and if they can see it visually they call it "Found" and continue on. This is usually done on classic signpost caches where a visual is easy or a quick touch/go (skipping the time to open/sign/return) also works.
 
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WStemple
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:20 am Reply with quote Back to top

CodeJunkie wrote:
I've also heard that some groups don't stop to sign the log on P&G caches. They drive by and if they can see it visually they call it "Found" and continue on. This is usually done on classic signpost caches where a visual is easy or a quick touch/go (skipping the time to open/sign/return) also works.
Not that I 'police' my cache logs, but I do have a big problem with drive-by finds. The GC rules are VERY clear that the log MUST be signed. Dropping a penny, while it is a sign that you were there is not the same thing. Pointing to the cache and yelling "Found it!" is not right either.

We all have forgot the writing stick or lost it during the hunt, and that is understandable. As CO's we all have let that slide, because of that. Most of us will note that in the log and maybe take a picture. Siging as a group is fine by me, as it save space on the shett so that it lasts longer. Short signatures are also need sometimes when space is tight.

For the record, I have only deleted one log entry and that was from a certain person in West Bend that I was supprised that they did it. I never heard anything from them. I was told about this by another cacher that sent me a log picture. I may check the other logs. If I see the same thing, then this person will be losing about 100 smiley's.
 
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Team Black-Cat
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:28 am Reply with quote Back to top

I usually end up with more names in the logbook than the online logs.

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mongo1965
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:00 am Reply with quote Back to top

What few hides I have don't get found enough to worry about Very Happy
 
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CacheNoTrace
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:56 pm Reply with quote Back to top

A few times I had to attemp to sign a log sheet with a leaf from the ground or poking a tiny hole with a stick if my pen's ink ran out or I forgot to grab my pen. Either way, I either put that in the virtual log of email the CO.

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Northwoods Tom
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Team Black-Cat wrote:
I usually end up with more names in the logbook than the online logs.


This happens to me also. Strange, especially after they took that long hike or trip to find it. Confused
 
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raslas
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Team Black-Cat wrote:
I usually end up with more names in the logbook than the online logs.


I know quite a few people who like to cache and sign the log when they find the cache but do not post it online.
 
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Run N Search
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Joined: 2010-03-07
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Location: Darboy WI

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

CodeJunkie wrote:

I've also heard that some groups don't stop to sign the log on P&G caches. They drive by and if they can see it visually they call it "Found" and continue on. This is usually done on classic signpost caches where a visual is easy or a quick touch/go (skipping the time to open/sign/return) also works.


There is a group here in Appleton that do drive-bys when they are on a numbers run, which I disagree with. Signing the log is an integral part of caching.

There is also a team here that seem to have more "forgot a pen" logs than they have found with a pen.

I have only had to question a handful of people about a find, but they gave sufficient information about the hide that I was satisfied that they were there.

I have only deleted one log to date, and only because it was a scathing tirade about another cacher. I thought that it was an odd chioce of forum.
 
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Team Honeybunnies
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I've had friends laugh as I sign a wet, sodden, frozen mess. Will it be legible? No, but I will be able to say that I did in fact sign the log.

In the balance, I think many of us have found broken containers due to freezing and the cache owner would probably have been just as happy if those finders had waved their hand over it and walked away.
 
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