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AuntieNae
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:47 am Reply with quote Back to top

Just asking if this might be considered .. to create a separate forum area for Earthcaches.

There are a good number of us into finding and placing Earthcaches .. and I recognize there are those that are not.

If a forum topic of Earthcaches could be created, it could be a place where they are discussed.

I am working with an outside organization on a pretty big project and a separate forum with those interested in Earthcaches would be a huge help to get assistance.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:59 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I will second that suggestion (AGAIN).
Let me know if you need help on the project. Razz
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'll give it a third!. Great idea!
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:16 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I proposed this last Sept...it wasn't a good idea then...I wonder if it is now? This is one of the very reasons I ran for the BOD...I wanted to find out why this was a bad idea and who shot it down....that's assuming there was a discussion about it. Sorry this is a sore subject for me.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:48 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi all,

I dont think anyone killed the idea per se, but rather it just got talked to death. Also, the reality is that we need 5 BOD members to vote on things to get things done and we have had some BOD members in the past who did not participate in this discussion.

Here is the history: First it was referred to the web committee, who wanted a section for each type of cache listing, instead of just earth caches, though Earthcaches was the original idea. The Web Committee developed the following proposal, which I cut and pasted to the BOD forum and put up for a vote on October 8. It received only 3 votes in favor. I am cut and pasting it here to see if you folks think it meets the need, or if we need something a lil more Earthcache specific, in your view:

(Personally, I think this is a good proposal, and it should go forward, and I would vote for it again. But I also think we need more, a forum folder for earthcache discussion, as this proposal does not really meet the needs of the original request, and there is earthcache specific things to discuss.)

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Proposal

- Create a new forum named "Cache Hiding Questions" in the category "Hiding and Hunting"

- Subtitle of forum would be "Questions about hiding a cache? Use this forum to get answers from the WI cache reviewers and WGA members."

- Forum would contain a sticky post with tips/FAQ (or link to tips) when hiding and submitting various types of caches (traditional, multi, earth, etc.). TBD - Who would create the initial list of tips/FAQ, and who would then maintain this information... hopefully some of the reviewers would pitch in as in the long run it should mean fewer one-on-one email questions for them.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:06 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks for your reply. As AuntieNae mentioned there are some big things brewing in the Earthcache arena which will be reveled at a later date. Having a place to discuss them at length would be very helpful. Also for a lot of us I think Earthcaches really fill a primal need...and that is to really get us back to earth and away from the lamp posts for a bit. There seems to more and more of us hooked on the cache type all the time.

Whatever can be done to get a topic heading dedicated to this type or branched off a slightly more encompassing heading IMO would be very helpful. As you also know I have a Word doc dedicated to the process of hiding Earthcaches and I'd like that included there as well...but that will come later and may also need revisions ....

Please BOD look into this and see if there is something we can do to make this happen....
 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:37 am Reply with quote Back to top

I love the whole idea as proposed...
 
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Cache_boppin_BunnyFuFu
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:43 am Reply with quote Back to top

Lostby7 wrote:
I proposed this last Sept...it wasn't a good idea then...I wonder if it is now? This is one of the very reasons I ran for the BOD...I wanted to find out why this was a bad idea and who shot it down....that's assuming there was a discussion about it. Sorry this is a sore subject for me.


I feel it is a very good idea also... lemme see if we can get this up for more discussion with the Board. With Ralph and myself, maybe we can shed some more light on the idea and how it will be utilized. I feel that Earthcaches, being specific/specialty caches, that it would help to keep discussion from getting lost amongst other threads.

zuma wrote:


Proposal

- Create a new forum named "Cache Hiding Questions" in the category "Hiding and Hunting"

- Subtitle of forum would be "Questions about hiding a cache? Use this forum to get answers from the WI cache reviewers and WGA members."

- Forum would contain a sticky post with tips/FAQ (or link to tips) when hiding and submitting various types of caches (traditional, multi, earth, etc.). TBD - Who would create the initial list of tips/FAQ, and who would then maintain this information... hopefully some of the reviewers would pitch in as in the long run it should mean fewer one-on-one email questions for them.


Ralph.. I think the proposal is well put together, but missing the point of the Earthcache specific forum. As I see it, it is a place for full discussion of Earthcaches including creating a good quality EC, finding places to create them, discussion about having visited other EC's in other states/countries, problems, concerns, ideas, gripes, etc.

As for the tips and initial lists, I would LOVE to get together with my fellow Earthcache Masters and create these thigs. There is good info on the Earthcache(dot)org site. There are some grey areas I would like to talk with the Org about too.

I do realize that others migth say "Well what about a Multi or Traditional forum?" My answer would be that THAT is what GC.com & Groundspeak is all about. Earthcaches are not part of GC.com but a joint venture with Geology(dot)com (The Geological Society of America) and those associated with them, including the National Parks Service.

Fu

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:52 am Reply with quote Back to top

Since this is a unique cache style listed and approved outside GC.com, how about a category titled: Earthcaches, Virtual Caches, Locationless Caches, Moving Caches, Temporary Caches, Vacation Caches, Benchmarks, Letterboxes, Cache Quests, Task Caches, etc.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:43 am Reply with quote Back to top

rogheff wrote:
Since this is a unique cache style listed and approved outside GC.com, how about a category titled: Earthcaches, Virtual Caches, Locationless Caches, Moving Caches, Temporary Caches, Vacation Caches, Benchmarks, Letterboxes, Cache Quests, Task Caches, etc.


Whooooooaaaa....that's a long one!!! Not sure that would fit on a tab. LOL

** Vituals can't be created anymore...Earthcaches sorta fall into that one, so drop Virtual.

**Locationless.... went to Waypointing and I have no clue who participates in that, so drop that one off.

**GC.com doesn't allow Moving caches, though they use to. So drop that one, another one gone.

**Cache quest and Task caches, is that a CITO???? Hmmmm

**Temps...we're not going there. LOL Another drop

**Vacation caches are no longer allowed....bye bye!

**Letterboxes and benchmarking are already part of GC.com, though they do have partnership elsewhere.

Sooooo. that leaves just Earthcaches!!! Very Happy

Wow... and I rationalized all that after being up for 27 hrs and working a 12 hr shift in there!! Plus I'm a blond Hare! ROFLMBO! Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:53 am Reply with quote Back to top

Cache_boppin_BunnyFuFu wrote:


** Vituals can't be created anymore...Earthcaches sorta fall into that one, so drop Virtual.

**Locationless.... went to Waypointing and I have no clue who participates in that, so drop that one off.

**GC.com doesn't allow Moving caches, though they use to. So drop that one, another one gone.

**Cache quest and Task caches, is that a CITO???? Hmmmm

**Temps...we're not going there. LOL Another drop

**Vacation caches are no longer allowed....bye bye!

**Letterboxes and benchmarking are already part of GC.com, though they do have partnership elsewhere.

Sooooo. that leaves just Earthcaches!!! Very Happy

Wow... and I rationalized all that after being up for 27 hrs and working a 12 hr shift in there!! Plus I'm a blond Hare! ROFLMBO! Laughing


Stop hiding behind one cache listing website and you'll find that each and every comment you made is WRONG! There'a a lot more to geocaching than GC.com!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:53 am Reply with quote Back to top

UMMMMMM...Why? DOes the WGA HAVE to be ALL about what GC.com???? I myself have a few Location less Caches listed on Terracaching.com and do have a regular listed terracache that's been found only twice.

So what you are saying that if a board member does not do any of the above items or doesn't know of anyone else that does things, it can't be discussed here? Cuz that's how I read that statement.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:04 pm Reply with quote Back to top

rogheff wrote:


Stop hiding behind one cache listing website and you'll find that each and every comment you made is WRONG! There'a a lot more to geocaching than GC.com!


cheezehead wrote:
UMMMMMM...Why? DOes the WGA HAVE to be ALL about what GC.com???? I myself have a few Location less Caches listed on Terracaching.com and do have a regular listed terracache that's been found only twice.

So what you are saying that if a board member does not do any of the above items or doesn't know of anyone else that does things, it can't be discussed here? Cuz that's how I read that statement.


I didn't mean anything against other types of caches and accept and sympathize with comments and agree there is more to caching than GC.com and more to it than the WGA. I don't feel my comment was necessarily wrong or right. It was just a "personal" observation of mine, as an EC Master and NOT as a Board Member. I would just like to (as a Board Member),ASSIST with getting something added is all. I am very willing to help anyone with desires to make changes or additions. EC's are just a passion of mine is all

How about just shortening that forum title to something like "Specialty Caches" or "Non-Traditional Caches". Or if someone has another idea for a title, taht would be kewl too. they are a bit less descriptive, but it would fit on the tab a bit better!!! Smile

Something else we EC Masters can always consider....why not just create a site away from the WGA? We could do that too. Not as handy, but a possibility. One I had thought of in the past, to do on my own.

Some things to think about. Thanks bunches for your comments and input. Smile


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Cache_boppin_BunnyFuFu wrote:


Something else we EC Masters can always consider....why not just create a site away from the WGA? We could do that too. Not as handy, but a possibility. One I had thought of in the past, to do on my own.




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What good would that do people who are new to the WGA,geocaching, or earth caches? Why can't ALL the information and discussion be here at one site?

I for one have not done am earth cache in any aspect. I have a few ideas for a few. I think it would be a heck of a lot easier to ask the pros
HERE for input and information.

And I'm sure I'm taking this out of context but if your not an EC Master you don't count? That's why I hate rankings and numbers and titles.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Rolling Eyes Holy cow. Rolling Eyes
Drama drama drama.
ya know what lets just leave the forums the way they are and post information haphazardly and let information seekers find what they are looking for themselves..there is a nifty search feature; not as handy but it works ...eventually.

How a simple and helpful suggestion has turned into this is beyond me.
 
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