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Interested in a Puzzle Creator Workshop?
Yes
50%
 50%  [ 15 ]
No
50%
 50%  [ 15 ]
Total Votes : 30


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-cheeto-
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Location: Appleton, WI

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:37 am Reply with quote Back to top

I posted an idea buried on another thread and wanted to move it for more visibility.

Here goes:

I was thinking it would be fun to put on an event to teach others how to place new puzzle caches (rather than solving/finding them).

It would be pretty informational because a. It would teach traditional cache placement techniques - location, permission, container choice, getting coords b. It would teach things like determining bogus coords and other puzzle specific cache creation topics. C. It would cover submitting the cache page including some simple html tips (which is almost always necessary for puzzle caches) and how to place pictures in the gallery and then reference them on the page (so cachers dont have to "go into the gallery" or view them from photobucket which is blocked by one of my internet sources and really annoying) D. It would cover creating geochecker and evince checkers and putting them on the cache page.

It would be pretty simple to either create a brand new cache or recreate the steps to making one that already exists (or is in the works) in front of an audience while showing tips and tricks that have been learned from experience.

I think this would interest not just people who might want to try hiding a new puzzle cache but also those looking to solve them. Reason being is they would see the puzzle process "from the other side" so to speak. They might hear a tip or 2 from "my perspective" on creating new puzzles that will certainly help in solving puzzles (mine and others out there).

Feedback? Worth putting together?

I certainly would not mind putting on "a class" if there was enough interest out there. Perhaps it might spark new interest in some creative people out there to place a few new ones that I would get to go find Smile


Gotta Run wrote:

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I think this is an excellent idea. I also think it could be handled via a number of different threads on the Puzzle forum itself, similar to Marc's big cipher thread. Basically, how to do this, how to do that, and so on.

The merits of geochecker vs. evince; photos in the gallery versus offsite--those are both good ones.


I love the idea of putting it on the forums. What would be cool is to do both in-person presentation and also on the forum snippets of each topic. I do think however that many people learn by seeing and hearing rather than reading so that would be why both would be great.

Perhaps this might be workable into the upcoming WGA event??? Have we ever done class type presentations at the camping events before? I figure this might be a good way to gain a bigger audience of the group than just having a local event in my area. However, holding a class would require a projector of some sort. Not sure if we can do that at a campout event or not.

I used to have access to a portable projector but I don't any longer.

If there is enough interest in this idea, I would like to ask for at least one more volunteer to help me work on it so it's not just my ideas and my opinions. Anyone want to raise a hand?

Also, I will continue to watch this thread and ask that if anyone has any other things related to creating a puzzle cache that they would like covered, please speak up and share your ideas!
 
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gotta run
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

We haven't voted on this yet because we're trying to figure out if an event is the best venue for this type of thing, or if the forums are.

My thinking is that a lot of what goes into puzzle-making doesn't lend itself real well to an event unless everyone is armed with laptops and wifi. Not that it's not a great idea, I'm just wondering if the type of topics that would likely be covered lend themselves better to "read about it then try it." ???
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I have my hand raised ...........
 
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gotta run
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

marc_54140 wrote:
I have my hand raised ...........


Yes but how many fingers are you holding up?
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

gotta run wrote:
marc_54140 wrote:
I have my hand raised ...........


Yes but how many fingers are you holding up?


Did you take a deep breath like I told you to the other day? Take another.

OK, it WAS me all along!

I'm volunteering to partner (?) cheeto in his puzzle creating workshop. Also, gives me another chance to stir the pot!
 
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marc_54140
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:57 pm Reply with quote Back to top

An event is a good place to start. Having a sample puzzle, and walk thru the construction.

How did the idea originate.

How are numbers involved. If at all....

What will the puzzle be.

Where will the cache be.

Multi or single stage.

Container size, and why.

What goes on the page.

Page options.

Hints

Review before publication

etc, etc, etc, etc ................
 
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-cheeto-
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:09 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Let's please keep this thread discussing the idea of the workshop and ideas about it. Much appreciated.

Interesting poll results thus far. Looking at the poll, I only set it to Yes/No to see how many's yes's I get not necessarily how each of them weighs in but that's good to know too.
 
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amita17
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yes. I would attend if I were able to, but probably more to gain insight into solving them. I attended one of Marc's pizza and puzzle events, and it was helpful. Still, I am new at this and need all the help I can get.
 
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