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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:48 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Just to add one more map to the fray...
I kind of like the trail directly West of the cache. Depending, of course, on how accessable the "Local Road" to the trail is.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I was looking at that too TBC. If memory serves, most of those roads are old logging roads that are well overgrown now days. I'm thinking that some of them may be snowmobile trails now days. I remember hearing from some locals over 25 years ago that Hunting camp road, on HWY 45, north of county C a couple of miles, used to be a short cut to Hiles for local teenagers. I remember a guy telling me the only way was by 4 wheel drive and that he wouldn't risk taking his in there. I bird hunted Hunting Camp years ago, and the road just circled around, but there were a couple of off shoots that kind of peetered out to nothing.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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Well, I'm up for the planning and strategizing, but partially based on the date and mostly on the physical challenge I'm pretty sure i'm out.


Well, I'm enjoying all the planning as it's fun to hear different ideas and see different maps. But, if you can survive the Three Bad Ribs I think this would be very doable. It's the first person breaking trail that gets worn down, once the trail is established the walking isn't so bad at all.

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If we know which cardinal direction we should be heading in, we just check the compass. (Not that anyone needs our advice.)


Very good advice that would have saved the day last year had I actually heeded it. I didn't take the cache seriously enough and I didn't have a back-up GPS or a compass along. If I hadn't been stubborn and just kept the GPS in front of me and the trekking poles on my pack we wouldn't even be planning this as we would have found it last year. We made several mistakes and it cost us finding the cache.

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Found out at Scouts last night, that Jacob is parking cars for the Packer game on the 27th. So we won't be able to tag along on that date. Bummer!


Sorry to hear you won't make it but happy to hear that Jacob is in scouts. It has been a very worthwhile part of our kids' lives.

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The 29th would work the best for me. After that, I'm not sure. I personally would probably pass on the later date due to having work the next day.


I'm guessing you mean the 27th (the 29th is a Tuesday)? I like the 27th better for the same reasons you mention even though my drive isn't as long- it's still a good ways from home.

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It looks like a parking area directly east of the cache, that turns west off of Atkins.


If you're going into the arrowhead swamp you're going without me. wink

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I kind of like the trail directly West of the cache. Depending, of course, on how accessable the "Local Road" to the trail is.


That is interesting. I don't think we can afford to plan that route though unless we know that we can make it from that access. The service gate has plenty of room for parking (along the road), and no folks living in the area to wonder what's going on that we'd have to explain geocaching to. I do like the looks of that map and that trail though. Just can't see committing to that approach without more information.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:39 pm Reply with quote Back to top

After looking at the western route again, I can say that I never been on that one before. Like mentioned above, I'm not liking that too much unless someone has some experience on that trail. It might be easier, but it might be miles longer.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:43 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Anybody know what the swamps are like, waterwise? If there is not a lot of snow, or if it warms up, is this one of those swamps that holds ankle or knee deep water? Or just a few inches that kind of seeps up? I would like to be prepared on all fronts if possible.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:08 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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You all realize that once you find this cache, you'll be at least 1/10th of the way to a free dinner on us? LOL

rspalsh says...
Oh sure...now you throw this out... it better be more than mcd's :>


Well, so far the one team that's completed it, Snyder Bear, got the Trempealeau Hotel on us last June. Not too shabby.

It would NOT be mickeyd's or any of their imitators unless that's really what the team wanted. Ugh! This is supposed to be my way to eat somewhere *other* than the Kwik Trip deli!

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

furfool wrote:
Anybody know what the swamps are like, waterwise? If there is not a lot of snow, or if it warms up, is this one of those swamps that holds ankle or knee deep water? Or just a few inches that kind of seeps up? I would like to be prepared on all fronts if possible.


If you look at the winter photos on the cache page you should have a pretty good idea of what we'll be going through. I don't think wet will be a problem- I think things will be frozen (I hope so anyway). It is just really thick in places. However, as I've said, knowing how to avoid the arrowhead swamp will make this much, much easier than what we experienced last time.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Team Black-Cat wrote:
Just to add one more map to the fray...
I kind of like the trail directly West of the cache. Depending, of course, on how accessable the "Local Road" to the trail is.
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That's the trail I was talking about.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

One Paddle Short wrote:
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Well, I'm up for the planning and strategizing, but partially based on the date and mostly on the physical challenge I'm pretty sure i'm out.


Well, I'm enjoying all the planning as it's fun to hear different ideas and see different maps. But, if you can survive the Three Bad Ribs I think this would be very doable. It's the first person breaking trail that gets worn down, once the trail is established the walking isn't so bad at all.


Three bad ribs didn't have any snow and had plenty of rocks to stop and breathe on. Not to mention the 3 days of recovery after. But now you have me thinking...

I think the 29th reference came from my post about waiting so that the trail would get nice and hard packed to go without snowshoes, it was put out as a lark and not a suggestion.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:14 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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But now you have me thinking...


Aw c'mon, Mike! It'll be FUN! Twisted Evil
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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RSplash40 wrote:
But now you have me thinking...


Aw c'mon, Mike! It'll be FUN! Twisted Evil



Foul! You can not use peer pressure unless you are signed on to the expedition. Now, if you say you're thinking of attending you may use peer pressure in any way you see fit. wink
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:16 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Why dont you just pop the balloons and spit in the punch bowl...

Actually, I thought I talked to you about this a couple of months ago.. doesn't that count? Barring craphasy weather or something coming up at the last minute, I'm planning on joining in.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Team Black-Cat wrote:
Why dont you just pop the balloons and spit in the punch bowl...

Actually, I thought I talked to you about this a couple of months ago.. doesn't that count? Barring craphasy weather or something coming up at the last minute, I'm planning on joining in.


Great! Well then,...

Aw c'mon, Mike! It'll be FUN! Twisted Evil
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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Why dont you just pop the balloons and spit in the punch bowl...


Was that supposed to be SPIKE the punch ?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:23 am Reply with quote Back to top

I was just looking again at the satellite image. I noticed a faint line about 5oo ft west of the Yellow Birch. It appears to start out going sw and then arc south to go right to the shallow V where the top of the "bird's" upper beak and head meet. Just wanted to throw this out there. I wish I could zoom in closer and have a little better resolution.

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