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-cheeto-
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:38 am Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah so moving a difficulty or terrain down in the winter means nothing to those who did it because when the owner moves it back up again in the summer it shows that they completed it at the current difficulty/terrain. It's silly really. Unless the difficulty of the hide has changed or nature/man has modified the terrain significantly, they should be left alone once the owner is "satisfied" with the ratings.

It's interesting that an older "legacy cache" like this one would get changed all of a sudden. Maybe the owner has been changing it in the seasons like this all along?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:42 am Reply with quote Back to top

I think I am in. I will post a note Saturday morning confirming that I am leaving to join you all or not.

I saw Jim's note about poles. Think I should pick up some of those lightweight trekking poles? I've seen pictures of folks using these during these winter hikes. Do they seem to help or are they more of a burden? Saw some on sale somewhere and my son has been eyeing them up anyway. I know they would help in the summer as well.

I need to pick up another pair of gloves anyway...
 
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Mister Greenthumb
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:53 am Reply with quote Back to top

-cheeto- wrote:
I think I am in. I will post a note Saturday morning confirming that I am leaving to join you all or not.

I saw Jim's note about poles. Think I should pick up some of those lightweight trekking poles? I've seen pictures of folks using these during these winter hikes. Do they seem to help or are they more of a burden? Saw some on sale somewhere and my son has been eyeing them up anyway. I know they would help in the summer as well.

I need to pick up another pair of gloves anyway...


We each only use one. That way you still have one free arm and hand. Sometimes it's a bother to have them along, but the plusses out weigh the minuses. They work great to help keep your footing when it's icy and going up and down slippery slopes. They also double as a tool to help locate caches under the snow.
 
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JimandLinda
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:53 am Reply with quote Back to top

A pole or 2 would be good. Since we will need to walk single file, I was hoping that cachers would take turns leading the way. Since I've been out there twice, I would rather just get you to the beginning and let the adventure continue from there.
If we get on deer trails, we should be OK, as we can look in the hoof prints to see the ground conditions beneath the snow. Deer don't like deep water, as a rule, unless they are being chased, and want to throw off the scent. These deer trails are travel/feed trails, and serve a function for the local herd.
I don't think the D*s have changed. This cache owner has been contacted numerous times for Cache Adoption and has not responded.

The "Old Building" cache is nearby, so on the way out, it may be possible to dig that one out, too.
 
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cheezehead
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:53 am Reply with quote Back to top

I would recommend poles. I think they help.
 
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gotta run
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:55 am Reply with quote Back to top

-cheeto- wrote:
Think I should pick up some of those lightweight trekking poles? I've seen pictures of folks using these during these winter hikes. Do they seem to help or are they more of a burden?


My 2 cents, they are very handy for when you fall down, but a burden for walking otherwise as they're one more thing to carry and get caught up in stuff more than they help. And since there will be plenty of people around to help you back up....
 
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BakRdz
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:07 am Reply with quote Back to top

-cheeto- wrote:
Think I should pick up some of those lightweight trekking poles?


I've been finding that on a trail, poles just get in my way. But when breaking trail, especially though tall grass and reeds, it's handy to have something to brace yourself. Also, it's nice to have something along to test snow, ice, and water depth. That's why I carry "Roosevelt" - a 5+ foot 1" thick stick. I've found it to be helpful for making it through the rough and as I discovered recently, probing underwater looking for sunken caches.

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sandlanders
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:10 am Reply with quote Back to top

If you have the opportunity to buy some trekking poles, get them. They can be used summer or winter. I got mine in July and found them to be very useful when we tackled hills (up and down) or did long hikes (help with the rhythm). I've even used them to help "vault" over small streams and mucky areas.

Yes, they are one more thing to carry, and I have set them down in spots only to briefly forget about them when leaving. But even going into some deep snow yesterday for short distances I regretted not bringing them along to help with balance (hence, a couple of butt prints wink). And mine collapse, so if you don't want to use them in spots, you can still add them to the pack to bring along.
 
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cheezehead
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:18 am Reply with quote Back to top

sandlanders wrote:
Trekkin' and Birdin' wrote:
So Pat, are you going to come swampin' with us? wink

Heck, no!

Wimp!
 
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redwingrr
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:25 am Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks for the info on ratings changing - very interesting!

I was very thankful for those wonderful deer trails yesterday - some were better than others but any trail at all is a big help.

Had no trouble with breaking through into water yesterday.
 
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Sloughfoot
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:40 am Reply with quote Back to top

Sloughfoot is going to try to make it, sounds like a good time. I have already done the Old Building Site so might be able to help dig that one out.

Mrs Sloughfoot says I can't say nothing bad about her wimping out so I won't. Heh Heh Heh She is always so much fun to watch in deep snow.
 
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zoesbrother
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Location: On my pedal bike

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:39 pm Reply with quote Back to top

If I can get some of my chores done I'll see if my parent's will let me take the car and come on down.
 
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JimandLinda
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Heading out for a second bag of miniature marshmallows now... wink
 
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JimandLinda
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Easiest driving directions...

from north, south or east- Hwy.41 to Cty. N WEST, then left (south) on Town Hall Road to church.

from the west, Hwy. 23 to Cty. C, then left (north) through Eldorado, then angle right on Town Hall Road to church.

I know you have GPS units, but some cachers carry maps in their heads!
 
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Frizz
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:07 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Rsplash40 and I havek been conspiring to find a way to make it down south for this one. I'm hoping to make this #1800, and it would be fun to do it with a crowd!

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