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labrat_wr
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'm just not going to get sick, or injured, or have cavities, or allow my eyesight to get worse and I forbid my family from requiring health care.

Am I upset this passed - yes.
can I do anything about it? - I have enough other stuff to worry about. I will leave it to the professionals. JMHO

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Team Vaughan
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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Besides, Mr. Limbaugh recently said he'd leave the country if the legislation passed. One can only hope he's a man of his word. Rolling Eyes

No, he said he would leave the country to receive his medical care. He never said he would move.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:47 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well, that's debatable, but, in any case, he did mention Costa Rica as his destination.....a country which has universal health care. Opponents of health care reform, like Rush, are always saying our health care system is the greatest in the world and doesn't need all this reform. That's pretty amusing!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:07 am Reply with quote Back to top

No debate, read the transcript if you like.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_032310/content/01125110.guest.html
 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:28 am Reply with quote Back to top

Here's a summary I received from the American Academy of Family Physicians

"Sunday night the U.S. House of Representatives took a major step forward in improving health care in this country. We applaud the House for this historic vote and thank you for all your help over the last year to get us to this moment.
The bill addresses many of family medicine’s long-held priorities. It will guarantee coverage and expand access to health care for 32 million more Americans. It will help shift us toward a health care delivery system based on primary care. It will advance the principles of the patient-centered medical home. It will eliminate many of the worst practices of the health insurance industry, like dropping patients when they get sick and denying coverage because of pre-existing conditions. And it includes a significant investment in the education and training of new family physicians.
We would have liked to see this bill go further on medical malpractice reform and provide a permanent solution for Medicare payments to doctors, and we’ll continue to work with the rest of the medical community and Congress for improvements in these and other areas of importance to family physicians. "
 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:36 am Reply with quote Back to top

Team Vaughan wrote:
No debate, read the transcript if you like.


Team Vaughn is apparently a fan of Mr. L., which is fine, and we obviously are not. However, further discussion of this would send the thread in another direction. Thank you for disagreeing in an agreeable manner-the country could use a lot more of that these days.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:15 am Reply with quote Back to top

I just thought this a little funny... of all the things that the news (in Milwaukee) could bring up in regards to issues with the health care bill, they have chosen to report that there is a issue with trying to figure out whether sex offenders should be able to have prescriptions of Viagra covered. Um, duh, wouldn't this one be a given?? NO!!! Do they not have more information to pass along to the general public?? Maybe a link to an actual copy of the bill?? Maybe even a brief over view of the bill in layman's terms to help educate the public as to what these goof balls are doing to us all?? I am not that terribly old, but I do remember a time when the news actually was informative, it would be nice to see something like that again instead of all the crime, shootings, stabbings, etc.
"steps off soapbox"
OK, I feel better... NEXT
 
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Braid Beards Gang
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:24 am Reply with quote Back to top

So how many restaurants will actually list nutrition information on their menus? What will happen if they don't? Will the government nutrition publication police come and get them.

A family member owns a small vending machine business. His machines don't have windows to see the packaging. He is wondering if he will be "tarred and feathered" if he doesn't have the info posted.

I wonder what other goodies will come to light hidden (maybe not hidden, but simply unknown bits) in this "wonderful piece of legislation".
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:42 am Reply with quote Back to top

I wonder what everyone actually thinks is in this bill who was gathering with signs to pass healthcare? Was it just to cover eveyone? Or maybe they were trying to get their premiums down? I bet it didn't include McDonalds having to reinvent all their signs to have the nutrient label next to each item. I wonder if vending machines are going to have the labels visable? That's a good question.

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gotta run
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:56 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Edit: Never mind. Just jousting at windmills.
 
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seldom|seen
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:48 pm Reply with quote Back to top

gotta run wrote:
Edit: Never mind. Just jousting at windmills.


ditto - mentally spent - want this round over with and done - want radicals to put down the bricks and bolt cutters and chill out - you need to vent on inanimate objects, fine. But physical bodily harm is going too far - protest if you have to, I do, but do it in a non-violent fashion - WWJD do comes to mind as does the oft mentioned serenity prayer
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:16 pm Reply with quote Back to top

WWJD? Heal himself, no need for healthcare is my guess.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Jstajlr wrote:
WWJD? Heal himself, no need for healthcare is my guess.


... and then approach the leper without health care and heal him as well, and let the prostitute take care of his feet, and give the homeless a few fish, some bread and something to drink, instead of money... you get my meaning.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I agree that making threats crosses the line, and obviously doing bodily injury or property damage does as well. For instance, biting the finger off a 75-year old man who was protesting health care reform...slashing the tires of 20 vehicles at a campaign headquarters in Milwaukee...spraying campaign workers with mace...Yeah, I would agree that behavior all crosses the line. (Trying to remember when that occurred...memory a bit foggy I'm afraid.)

And making a movie called "Death of a President?" Well I guess that's protected, albeit in very bad taste.

Each end of the political spectrum has its lunatic fringe, but we must be careful that disagreement and debate is not criminalized. Unfortunately, it is all too easy for the ruling class to cast any criticism as inciteful "hate speech" that must be squelched. Or to put it another way...

I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration.

--Hillary Clinton
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

gotta run wrote:


I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration.

--Hillary Clinton

And who was president at the time?

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