The first I did just last Sunday. The cache is not a tough find by any means, but bring some climbing gear along and have some great fun. (maybe you climbers would just consider it rock scrambling? Anyhoo, I would want someone else there)
This second one is a real butt kicker, at least the way I approached it, from the north. And aided by the fact I did not take the most direct route. Even so, to get to the final location is very cool and a thrill!!!
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