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goirish75
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:26 am Reply with quote Back to top

I'm going to be setting up my first night cache. (inspired by the night cache event at the campout). I wanted to have the listed coordinates get the searchers to the trail head, and from there they have to follow the firetack trail. Since the final location will be in a different place than the listed coordinates, should this be listed as a multi or just a traditional cache? Thanks all.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:44 am Reply with quote Back to top

My opinion is it should be a "?".

Not a multi because there are no actual waypoints to input and not a traditional for the reason that you are not giving the actual final coords.

Here are two examples of night caches in the Appleton area:

http://coord.info/GC1HJR7
http://coord.info/GC1BW8D

I may be off a little so an email to Deejay or Bec clear things up. They are always helpful.
 
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CodeJunkie
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:23 am Reply with quote Back to top

I believe all night caches are "Unknown" (mystery / puzzle) by definition.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:07 am Reply with quote Back to top

My night cache is considered a multi according to the reveiwer and the other on I am a co-owner is also considered a multi. I would think it has to be a mnulti since you need a waypoint for a starting point.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:05 am Reply with quote Back to top

Most the night caches I've done are mystery caches.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:03 am Reply with quote Back to top

We have all established that it WON'T be a Traditional, since there is no container at the posted coordinates.
If you want more cachers to seek it, post it as a ? rather than a multi. That "multiphobia" virus has still infected a few cachers! (not Digital Dan!) Very Happy

The Reviewer will let you know about any modifications after you Submit it.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:07 am Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks all. I will try submitting it as a mystery (?) cache first and see if it gets kicked back to me for changes. I completely agree with Jim & Linda, lol. We have that multi cache phobia, lol. Something about that symbol....

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:50 am Reply with quote Back to top

HMMM? And I thought everyone was afraid of the big blue ?.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:05 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Actually, I have a similar question. I hope you don't mind if I hijack your thread goirish75. I am placing a cache and it won't have any puzzle to solve and it will be at the posted coordinates. The cache will have a lock on it though and so finders will have to unlock it with a combination that will be on the cache page. Do I list this as a traditional? Or as a mystery?

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rtrezrsnhvn
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:11 pm Reply with quote Back to top

beccaday wrote:
Actually, I have a similar question. I hope you don't mind if I hijack your thread goirish75. I am placing a cache and it won't have any puzzle to solve and it will be at the posted coordinates. The cache will have a lock on it though and so finders will have to unlock it with a combination that will be on the cache page. Do I list this as a traditional? Or as a mystery?


we had one of those here in Oshkosh that was listed as a traditional, but felt like a mystery - until you cracked the code. (muggles took care of the combination permanently recently with a crowbar Sad )

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

beccaday wrote:
Actually, I have a similar question. I hope you don't mind if I hijack your thread goirish75. I am placing a cache and it won't have any puzzle to solve and it will be at the posted coordinates. The cache will have a lock on it though and so finders will have to unlock it with a combination that will be on the cache page. Do I list this as a traditional? Or as a mystery?


We have 2 caches along those same lines and they are both puzzles because you have to figure something out to get the lock open.

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CodeJunkie
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:28 pm Reply with quote Back to top

rtrezrsnhvn wrote:
beccaday wrote:
Actually, I have a similar question. I hope you don't mind if I hijack your thread goirish75. I am placing a cache and it won't have any puzzle to solve and it will be at the posted coordinates. The cache will have a lock on it though and so finders will have to unlock it with a combination that will be on the cache page. Do I list this as a traditional? Or as a mystery?


we had one of those here in Oshkosh that was listed as a traditional, but felt like a mystery - until you cracked the code. (muggles took care of the combination permanently recently with a crowbar Sad )

It depends - If you state the combination is 1234 then I'd say it's a traditional. If you need to figure out the combination, then I'd call it a puzzle.

In my opinion, the Oshkosh version 1n Your Face #3 [Very Happy] was a puzzle. I also think this one had odd (D/T) ratings but we won't go there in this thread.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:36 pm Reply with quote Back to top

CodeJunkie wrote:
rtrezrsnhvn wrote:
beccaday wrote:
Actually, I have a similar question. I hope you don't mind if I hijack your thread goirish75. I am placing a cache and it won't have any puzzle to solve and it will be at the posted coordinates. The cache will have a lock on it though and so finders will have to unlock it with a combination that will be on the cache page. Do I list this as a traditional? Or as a mystery?


we had one of those here in Oshkosh that was listed as a traditional, but felt like a mystery - until you cracked the code. (muggles took care of the combination permanently recently with a crowbar Sad )

It depends - If you state the combination is 1234 then I'd say it's a traditional. If you need to figure out the combination, then I'd call it a puzzle.

In my opinion, the Oshkosh version 1n Your Face #3 [Very Happy] was a puzzle. I also think this one had odd (D/T) ratings but we won't go there in this thread.


I agree with this logic, but wonder if the reviewers decided it was traditional. Not likely, but I think it shows that it could go either way.

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