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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I've thought about doing a multi with the waypoints set up as QR codes. Should be able to do it with a standard QR reader app. No Munzee required.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:44 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

conductorBrian wrote:
I've thought about doing a multi with the waypoints set up as QR codes. Should be able to do it with a standard QR reader app. No Munzee required.

I considered that also, but then I thought about how seldom regular multis get found. Add in the special equipment and it will get found even less.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Team Black-Cat wrote:
conductorBrian wrote:
I've thought about doing a multi with the waypoints set up as QR codes. Should be able to do it with a standard QR reader app. No Munzee required.

I considered that also, but then I thought about how seldom regular multis get found. Add in the special equipment and it will get found even less.

There's one of these in the Land of Sellzup.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:42 pm Reply with quote Back to top

CodeJunkie wrote:
Team Black-Cat wrote:
conductorBrian wrote:
I've thought about doing a multi with the waypoints set up as QR codes. Should be able to do it with a standard QR reader app. No Munzee required.

I considered that also, but then I thought about how seldom regular multis get found. Add in the special equipment and it will get found even less.

There's one of these in the Land of Sellzup.


Yes, and it works pretty well.

I did BakRdz's Munzee in OshVegas today and it went better than I expected. I say that because I've never used my smartphone for navigation and it guided me from Menominee Park to OshVegas and did it as well as my Nuvi would've. That was a pleasant surprise. I had to learn a bit once at the site on how to get to the scan screen, but once I did it worked like a charm.
I could also see using a Munzee scan as an alternate to signing the log on a micro (or even large logbooks...noone writes more than name/date nowadays).

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:59 am Reply with quote Back to top

conductorBrian wrote:
I've thought about doing a multi with the waypoints set up as QR codes. Should be able to do it with a standard QR reader app. No Munzee required.


Yep, I realize that. I was referring specifically to whether you could setup a multi-munzee and unless I'm not understanding the premise fully, I don't think you can.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:11 am Reply with quote Back to top

-cheeto- wrote:
conductorBrian wrote:
I've thought about doing a multi with the waypoints set up as QR codes. Should be able to do it with a standard QR reader app. No Munzee required.


Yep, I realize that. I was referring specifically to whether you could setup a multi-munzee and unless I'm not understanding the premise fully, I don't think you can.

Why would you want to do a multi? Munzee is all about the numbers so a multi would go against the premise of the game. Better to make every stop count even if they are on every telephone pole, street sign, etc along that residential street.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:43 am Reply with quote Back to top

The ones I did in gaska park are hidden. They are all easier finds but they are not just in plain sight.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:10 am Reply with quote Back to top

I read through the various forums on their website to get a little short history lesson and a better feeling for what the game entails.

There short term goal is to "fill the map" and so the system is setup in a way to encourage many placements.

It looks like the points system will be evolving to move away from the goal of "fill the map" as they are evolving it.

Also looks like they will be building in a quality (stars) system as well as incorporating that quality system into the points equation. They're thinking of ways to encourage/penalize based on quality placements. So it's not purely about the numbers it seems.

The coordinates can be adjusted using a "real GPS" by visiting the website and changing the coordinates online after it is "deployed". However, without a real way of knowing the coordinates are valid, I wouldn't want to be "first to capture" on any of these.

Scanning a barcode hidden somewhere seems to actually be more geeky than geocaching. At first I thought this was an attempt to bring geocaching more to the masses but this seems to be much more obscure to me for some reason.

Has the same potential of showing me places I'd like to visit as geocaching does.

Has a larger potential for geo-litter than geocaching does. I base this on reading and seeing pictures of how they are being hidden. They intend to build in an "automatic un-deployment" at some point which will require periodic "owner maintenance scans" to make sure owners are still active. Again more potential for technological game litter.

Will be interesting to watch this one take shape. Looks more promising than Garmin's alternative. Maybe Garmin will buy them Wink
 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:26 am Reply with quote Back to top

-cheeto- wrote:
They intend to build in an "automatic un-deployment" at some point which will require periodic "owner maintenance scans" to make sure owners are still active.


You see this as a negative. I see this a something that GS should do.
The Geo-Litter would be easy to fix. With a small handful of volunteers, the WGA has done a great job with the Cache Rescue missions. I'm sure a company with more resources could automate this and expand it nationally...
 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:07 am Reply with quote Back to top

Team Black-Cat wrote:
-cheeto- wrote:
They intend to build in an "automatic un-deployment" at some point which will require periodic "owner maintenance scans" to make sure owners are still active.


You see this as a negative. I see this a something that GS should do.
The Geo-Litter would be easy to fix. With a small handful of volunteers, the WGA has done a great job with the Cache Rescue missions. I'm sure a company with more resources could automate this and expand it nationally...

I actually like this concept. Thinking how it applies to geocaching? If the owner doesn't at least log it online that they checked the cache it could be disabled / terminated? That's certainly an interesting proposition. The WGA has a pretty good process in place for the cleanup of geolitter, and just imagine those abandoned ammo cans / bison tubes that could be up for grabs just because the CO's got lazy or left.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:50 am Reply with quote Back to top

[quote="Team Black-Cat"][quote="CodeJunkie"]
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Now, this whole idea takes them out of the realm of geocaching. An item could be anywhere, and will probably move around. They won't necessarily be tied to a geocache or a cacher. Their current location will always be unknown, so finding one would be purely random chance.
Of course, if this takes off then Bunny Fu Fu will need to get a new tattoo...


This is already the case with the window clings and bumper stickers used on cars. The one on my car has never been logged (I'm somewhat surprised with the amount of camp grounds we visit.). The only one I have ever logged was one I saw at last year's Cache Ba$h. (Sorry if this point was brought up already.)

An aside to something else you mentioned...I try to include a story in most of the TBs we find and pictures if requested (or if we've taken some interesting ones that day). I have a TB a friend placed in Europe that has been floating around for a year (without anything attached to it. She forgot!). I haven't gotten a single picture, story of why the people are in the country or area, what is in the area, etc. I know many are logged from phones but it is still disappointing.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

CodeJunkie wrote:
Team Black-Cat wrote:
-cheeto- wrote:
They intend to build in an "automatic un-deployment" at some point which will require periodic "owner maintenance scans" to make sure owners are still active.


You see this as a negative. I see this a something that GS should do.
The Geo-Litter would be easy to fix. With a small handful of volunteers, the WGA has done a great job with the Cache Rescue missions. I'm sure a company with more resources could automate this and expand it nationally...

I actually like this concept. Thinking how it applies to geocaching? If the owner doesn't at least log it online that they checked the cache it could be disabled / terminated? That's certainly an interesting proposition. The WGA has a pretty good process in place for the cleanup of geolitter, and just imagine those abandoned ammo cans / bison tubes that could be up for grabs just because the CO's got lazy or left.


I gave this some more thought. One reason this will never happen is that even "abandoned" caches still belong to the cache owner. And, even if it's archived on GC, it could still be in play at one of the other listing sites. Still... something worth thinking about.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:08 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The only reason I thought of it as a negative is if they de-list the game piece and there is not a "cleanup crew". Ultimately it's the responsibility of the placer but without the game there would be no litter.

I like the idea as well as long as there's an answer to removing.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:47 am Reply with quote Back to top

Just some notes on this regarding the guidelines. Geocaching.com considers munzee.com to be a competitor, so you cannot mention the program on your cache page. There is a possibliity you could use these as a multi stage, but you would need to get it preapproved by Groundspeak, because of the required download to your phone. Using it as a logbook is not acceptable. The logbook must be in the cache. Did I miss any suggestions? (Note that a simple QR barcode is fine, even for a field stage. This has been preapproved.)
 
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