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redhead3434
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:24 am Reply with quote Back to top

CodeJunkie wrote:

I've thought of these exact scenarios also and they scare me.

Title: It's "Sloppy" out here.
Photo: Go to these coords and you'll find a steel post in the marsh. Take a picture next to the post to verify you were at the right spot.


If you make one like this, it's not like it has your name slapped on it. You don't own it at all.
 
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Team Deejay
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:25 am Reply with quote Back to top

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How many flags does a challenge have to have to be deleted?


Top secret, but stick with flagging "no location" challenges as inappropriate.
 
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Lostby7
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:42 am Reply with quote Back to top

Team Deejay wrote:
redhead3434 wrote:
How many flags does a challenge have to have to be deleted?


Top secret, but stick with flagging "no location" challenges as inappropriate.

I think they need better wording in their flagging options...I think folks get confused about the options available and what they mean.
Here are your choices:
Prohibited
Offensive
Spam
Unplayable

These seem vague to me.
 
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redhead3434
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:00 am Reply with quote Back to top

In my opinion, they should just delete all of the world-wide locationless challenges altogether.
 
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Team Deejay
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:13 am Reply with quote Back to top

The ones in the Worldwide category are listed by Groundspeak.
 
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redhead3434
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Team Deejay wrote:
The ones in the Worldwide category are listed by Groundspeak.


I don't think that even Groundspeak should be able to issue non-location specific challenges. It even says that the basic premise of challenges is to "go somewhere, do something". I can do most of the world-wide challenges that have been listed from my house.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:00 pm Reply with quote Back to top

redhead3434 wrote:
Team Deejay wrote:
The ones in the Worldwide category are listed by Groundspeak.


I don't think that even Groundspeak should be able to issue non-location specific challenges. It even says that the basic premise of challenges is to "go somewhere, do something". I can do most of the world-wide challenges that have been listed from my house.


I would seriously suggest you communicate your feelings to them. I know they are interested in the opinions of the players.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:59 am Reply with quote Back to top

I just accepted one where I only have to take a picture of myself or my team while hiking. I am working on a challenge but I need to get the coordinates first. I am going to attempt to try this but if I make a challenge it will have a location or specific landmark.

I guess this makes it a virtual....

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:01 am Reply with quote Back to top

I just thought of a good challenge... I will create it soon.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:43 am Reply with quote Back to top

I added a challenge for the WGA Picnic at Brunet Island State Park. It is meant more to mock the challenge caches but enjoy it nonetheless.

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zuma
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Team Deejay wrote:
redhead3434 wrote:
Team Deejay wrote:
The ones in the Worldwide category are listed by Groundspeak.


I don't think that even Groundspeak should be able to issue non-location specific challenges. It even says that the basic premise of challenges is to "go somewhere, do something". I can do most of the world-wide challenges that have been listed from my house.


I would seriously suggest you communicate your feelings to them. I know they are interested in the opinions of the players.


Really? I took the wording of Jeremy's "DECLINED" post and the locking of the thread of nearly 2000 comments that players think the challenges suck, that the opinions of players did NOT matter.

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Team Deejay
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:04 am Reply with quote Back to top

zuma wrote:
Team Deejay wrote:
redhead3434 wrote:
Team Deejay wrote:
The ones in the Worldwide category are listed by Groundspeak.


I don't think that even Groundspeak should be able to issue non-location specific challenges. It even says that the basic premise of challenges is to "go somewhere, do something". I can do most of the world-wide challenges that have been listed from my house.


I would seriously suggest you communicate your feelings to them. I know they are interested in the opinions of the players.


Really? I took the wording of Jeremy's "DECLINED" post and the locking of the thread of nearly 2000 comments that players think the challenges suck, that the opinions of players did NOT matter.

z


I'm afraid that telling someone their concept sucks does not qualify as constructive criticism, no matter how many people like it.
 
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seldom|seen
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:09 am Reply with quote Back to top

gotta run wrote:
I think challenges could have a place for puzzles where the container is incidental...prove your solve to log? Also to highlight an interesting location where the .1 mile rule prohibits a physical cache...perhaps others. What do you think s¦s???


In response, I started this reply about 6 pages back but couldn't get my post to post. Trying again today as I realize there may still be something worth sharing and besides, with the pot simmering my ego-manically mannered mind won't boil over and scald any of the other chefs in this kitchen

I remember contemplating the future of the sport in my first year (2006) when I witnessed some dominant names disappear from scene complaining of mediocrity and number chasing. I'm now imagining what they would think of this latest GS endeavor?

Virtuals were pulled about the time I got started. If they had survived a little longer, there's a good chance I would now own a hundred or more.
But, the game evolves as we know it must and we adjust. I can certainly accommodate a final location for any idea and work around proximity issues if I have to. Pull the ALR's? Fine, those that do get the reward of doing something extra will do them anyway. Put creative cache creators in a box, and we'll come up with a way out of it. I was watching the GS forum about virtuals coming back for the past year with some trepidation. Would I now consider re-creating many of my caches which fit better the "virtual" moniker and what was this NEW version going to look like? Now we're presented with a way out of the box, and I'm not so sure I will consider taking it. Maybe I simply prefer punching my own holes in the construct.

I've been chuckling for a while now as I page through all the "take your picture" challenges and see where these appear to be going... Rolling Eyes Taking a picture in front of an object doesn't do a thing for me, but an activity like dropping rubber superballs from a bridge does. Both activities that would qualify as challenges. The question now is, will more of the former appear or the latter?

For the time being, I will be hanging back and watching. I think Jeremy is looking at the success of consumer model GPS sports and apps like SCVNGR and their siphoning of potential GS traffic and interest ( as others have also surmised), and hoped this might stem that tide. I agree with others that it would have found a better market as a whole new sport like Waymarking.

In the end, at least from my standpoint, the future of this category doesn't matter. I create caches for a certain breed of cacher. People looking for instant gratification are not going to find much by doing S|S caches. Take a picture of you pulling Thomas Jefferson's finger or take a virtual tour of Monticello and learn something about this incredible man. I know which one I'd spend a couple hours digging in deep and 'beyond the solve' to accomplish and which one I wouldn't waste 30 seconds to complete.
 
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CommanderUSN
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:56 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I was wondering what others were thinking about this and was pleasently surprised to see that Challenge Caches are (on a scale of 1-10) with 1 being lowest...ranked no higher than 3 and it appears some would even give them a negative number. I don't see the point...we do enough goofy things just getting to, retrieving and surviving the trip back.

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Joined: 2007-06-12
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Site updates we're made today.

Here's one that should appeal to some posting on this thread:

Quote:
# Updated public profile tab so that total finds does not include completed challenges


Link: http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=282129
 
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