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Captain and Mate
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:41 am Reply with quote Back to top

We ran across this site yesterday and wondered what folks think of this concept:
http://gcrm.gocacher.com/

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CodeJunkie
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:10 am Reply with quote Back to top

I'm not in favor. The "log only" option is nice, but I would hope cachers would do that anyway if it's full without permission.

The "replace" option is going to lead to much confusion. 5 minutes / difficulty means that I could have replaced many caches already that are on the high D end after spending just 30 minutes there. This just doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
 
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Northwoods Tom
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:35 am Reply with quote Back to top

Cache Rescue!

I like the idea for caches that are in a really special place or ones that you have spent a good deal of time (searching, puzzle, etc.) on and it has now gone missing.

Those magnetics on a guardrail with a cache description like "quick stop to stretch your legs..." I'll most likely let someone else take care of it.

It reminds me of a cache I spent a great deal of time on to solve, and then it went missing. It was archived and I wished I could have solved/found it before it went missing.
 
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Mister Greenthumb
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:47 pm Reply with quote Back to top

A really bad idea. This will lead to more cachers placing caches and not intending to maintain them in the future. Why should they if they can get someone else to do it later.
 
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Team Deejay
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Just to save us all a lot of trouble, Groundspeak does not allow linking to this particular website on cache pages. (There are a few still out there, but none in Wisconsin that I have found.) You can indicate on your cache page that you will allow people to maintain your cache page for you if you like, but I can also tell you that such a note will NOT buy you any favor with the people looking at caches which have needed maintenance for an extended period.
 
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gotta run
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:14 pm Reply with quote Back to top

What a great way to have redundant catches in the field...we saw enough of this through LCG point chasing in the past...
 
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Captain and Mate
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Team Deejay wrote:
Just to save us all a lot of trouble, Groundspeak does not allow linking to this particular website on cache pages. (There are a few still out there, but none in Wisconsin that I have found.)


There are quite a few that copy and paste the text from that site, which doesn't seem that different from simply including the link.

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Northwoods Tom
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:29 am Reply with quote Back to top

Northwoods Tom wrote:
I like the idea for caches that are in a really special place...


Native & Invasive | Forest Art GC13RDA

Anything can be abused, yet this is an example of the positive aspect of the change.
 
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huffinpuffin2
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Northwoods Tom wrote:
Northwoods Tom wrote:
I like the idea for caches that are in a really special place...


Native & Invasive | Forest Art GC13RDA

Anything can be abused, yet this is an example of the positive aspect of the change.


The way this cache devolved, was likely sad to see for the original CO. But did the original 'reason for being' disappear? It looks like the artwork was pulled out at some point.

(But thanks for sharing this, as we did enjoy looking at the pictures. Guess we missed something memorable, that would have been worth the trip!)
 
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beccaday
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Wow, that art is really cool! I wish I could have seen it before it was pulled out of the forest.

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gotta run
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:37 am Reply with quote Back to top

Two things. First, there is a huge difference between designating a responsible local person to look after a remote cache, and simply pasting verbiage on your cache page telling people they can feel free to replace a cache after 5 x D minutes of looking. The first is responsible, the second is lazy.

There are too many players in this game who think they are hot stuff because they have X00s of caches placed out there when they only have the wherewithal and/or provisions in place to care for a fraction of that amount.

Second, a fair amount of the artwork is still in place; not as impressive as it used to be but still worth the visit. We were there in August.
 
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Captain and Mate
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:26 am Reply with quote Back to top

gotta run wrote:
There are too many players in this game who think they are hot stuff because they have X00s of caches placed out there when they only have the wherewithal and/or provisions in place to care for a fraction of that amount.


That pretty well sums up what we were thinking, too.

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Peanut
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:56 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I was looking for a cache the other day. The location has a special meaning to me. It had gone missing quite a while back. So I wrote to the CO and asked him if he would mind if I replaced the log and the very clever magnetic container. He was more than happy to let me do it. As long as you ask and don't just take it upon yourself a lot of people are glad to have you repair or replace their caches.
 
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Todd300




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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I've yet to hit a power trail in which the CO allows replacement if the cache is not found. But if I do hit such a trail and I can't find the cache, I'll log the DNF. I'll not replace the cache. If the CO can make the time to put out 200 caches on one trail, he make the time to replace them himself.

I will, however, replace or maintain LOCAL caches for a CO if asked only if I have found it previously.
 
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sandlanders
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:34 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Peanut wrote:
I was looking for a cache the other day. The location has a special meaning to me. It had gone missing quite a while back. So I wrote to the CO and asked him if he would mind if I replaced the log and the very clever magnetic container. He was more than happy to let me do it. As long as you ask and don't just take it upon yourself a lot of people are glad to have you repair or replace their caches.

Sounds like that's the way to do it, Peanut. Maybe others can visit that special place now, looking for the cache.
 
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