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Trekkin and Birdin
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Can someone aid and abet us here? Our grandson Pooh's Pal doesn't have a premium membership and I know there's some secret way he can log such a cache. How does that work? Thanks.

When he gets a job and can pay for it, we'll encourage that. But at the moment, he's only two. Any scribbled signatures on area caches lately are probably his. The independence of a two year old!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The "back door" requires the help of a premium member. Go to the cache page and click the "Log your visit" link. Highlight the entire address in the address bar and copy it to your clipboard (Ctrl+C, or right click and select Copy).
Email the link text to the non premium member. Or, log out of GC and have the non member log in. The can then paste the link into tha address bar and navigate to the logging page.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Two... didn't see that. Never mind the emailing thing. Probably won't work. Smile

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Trekkin and Birdin
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks Brian. Fortunately, the two year old has grandparents that can do this for him, LOL.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Another option is to e-mail the CO of a premium cache. Some CO's may be willing to temporarily make the cache a regular cache so the non premium member cacher can log the find then they will change the cache back to premium.

Not all CO's will do this though. All depends who the CO is and other circumstances.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:41 pm Reply with quote Back to top

It's now OK to disregard the CO's intent/wishes by encouraging and allowing non-PMO backdoor logging? At the very least, shouldn't the CO be asked first?

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Trekkin and Birdin
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well, in the specific case we wondered about, the cache owner was right there with us when our grandson found it. He didn't say we couldn't help him log it and seemed to enjoy watching the little guy's eyes light up at the sight of a footlocker in his back yard filled with stuff.

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AstroD-Team
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I know why you ask T&B. Years ago, Duck used to find caches with us and as a non-PMO he wasn't able to log them.

I know in years past,, if the PM is signed in, opens the cache page, and clicks the "log your visit", when the log visit page loads up, the PM logs out, the non-PMO logs in, it will be right on the "log visit" page and the non PMO can submit a log. Don't know if it works anymore though. Duck used this method once with the CO's permission. Seemed pretty easy.

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zuma
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Todd300 wrote:
Another option is to e-mail the CO of a premium cache. Some CO's may be willing to temporarily make the cache a regular cache so the non premium member cacher can log the find then they will change the cache back to premium.

Not all CO's will do this though. All depends who the CO is and other circumstances.


Any of the premium caches that I own, this is how I would like it done, and would do this for any reason.

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Mister Greenthumb
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I know what someone wants from Grandma for his next birthday!
You're never too young to want it to be about the numbers.
 
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Trekkin and Birdin
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The little booger walked over a mile to find a few caches. Refused to fall asleep, though. He could probably do the ET Trail in half the time with less sleep than we'd need, LOL.

He has yet to hit 100, though. It is fun to take him out now, cause he kind of gets what it's about and likes to look and hold the GPSr. It was nice to visit the PMO cache, as there are darn few around here big enough for making trades.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

AstroD-Team wrote:
It's now OK to disregard the CO's intent/wishes by encouraging and allowing non-PMO backdoor logging? At the very least, shouldn't the CO be asked first?

I wasn't commenting on the "rightness" or "wrongness" of the practice. It is a well known back door and can be easily found by anyone with a little searching.
Jeremy Irish wrote:
Back door logging of Premium Member caches is intentionally allowed so family members and friends who don't have Premium Memberships can log them when they find it with a Premium Member.

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labrat_wr
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

What happens to the audit log on the Premium only cache if the CO opts to temporarily open it to all members? Does this terminate the original audit and restart when the cache is moved back to PMO?

If so, I can understand why some owners would choose to have the NPM use the backdoor.

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CodeJunkie
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:36 pm Reply with quote Back to top

labrat_wr wrote:
What happens to the audit log on the Premium only cache if the CO opts to temporarily open it to all members? Does this terminate the original audit and restart when the cache is moved back to PMO?

I've tested this on some of my own and the stats appear to stay in tact.

I've never done this, but have contacted a couple of CO's to ask if they would allow my children (non-Premium) to log it if they were with me. One CO said they would drop the premium status temporarily to log it. The other CO didn't respond, so when we do that cache I'm going to use the backdoor method

My preference is to contact the CO first to explain the situation and attempt to get their permission. If they were to respond with "Please don't log it if you're not a premium member." then I would respect their request.
 
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Todd300




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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:48 pm Reply with quote Back to top

None of my caches are premium caches. They all are meant to be found by everyone.

If I was to have an unique cache or have one in front of my house (which I am considering), I might consider making it a PMO cache, but for the most part, I want all geocachers to find my caches.

So no worries about non premium cachers finding my caches and having to log them.
 
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