Clever hide or big problem???

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:23 am

Hopefully this doesn't happen in Wisconsin, but Trekkin' likes to look at cache containers offered on ebay. This morning he spotted two that really are disturbing on many levels.

One was a cone shaped floral holder of the type placed at gravesites, with the
cache underneath the flowers at the bottom of the cone.

The other was one of those little crosses (the resin formed ones) that people like to place near a gravesite, with a box underneath as with fake rocks.

Honestly, at what point does "clever" become "bad news?" I'm one of those cachers who doesn't even like ripping apart a deadfall to find a cache. Caches like these are not the kind of thing that would endear outsiders to our little game in their cemeteries.

I realize our wonderful ammo boxes in the woods are swiftly becoming a thing of the past, but really?????

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:35 am

Ugh. Some people either have no common sense or they will do anything for a buck.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:49 am

I personally love unique cache containers.... I have out flat caches, screws, lights, bugs, etc... and I think it can make things interesting.

HOWEVER, I would personally draw the line with the WSQ type of hides..... fake crosses, flowers, or anything else designed to be next to a grave site for me is unethical.

Joined: 2009-06-05 Posts: 2123 Location: Menominee, MI

CacheNoTrace wrote:

HOWEVER, I would personally draw the line with the WSQ type of hides..... fake crosses, flowers, or anything else designed to be next to a grave site for me is unethical.

I agree. Clever containers have no place in cemeteries. Caches in cemeteries should always be an easy find with the purpose of visiting the cemetery itself, not finding the cache. If I have to spend 5 minutes looking for a cache in a cemetery, I walk away.

WGA Member Joined: 2009-06-01 Posts: 73

Todd300 Wrote:
I agree. Clever containers have no place in cemeteries. Caches in cemeteries should always be an easy find with the purpose of visiting the cemetery itself, not finding the cache. If I have to spend 5 minutes looking for a cache in a cemetery, I walk away

Agreed 100%....we always enjoy visiting cemetaries to see interesting and old gravestones...

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:08 am

Unless I'm in a super remote cemetery I don't think I even look for 5 minutes...If the place is remote and I will not be seen I don't mind a little longer search.

...but never would I start lifting crosses or messing with items placed as tribute; that's just wrong.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:21 am

I agree. I would not want a "new" geocacher or anyone else to mistaken those items by gravesites as a containers.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:25 am

If I were you, I wouldn't search for GC2ZYTC

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:13 pm

Bad news, I enjoy WSQs but I hate the ones that are hidden right near headstones. Really!? Just find somewhere on the fringe of the cemetery and don't try to get all tricky with your 3+ Dif hides in the cemetery. I like visiting WSQs to check out some local history and maybe grab a cache or two while I'm there.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:35 pm

First, these would violate our guidelines for a WSQ cache. These would have to be placed ON a gravesite in order to blend in. When you purchase a plot, in every sense of the word, you have a "deed" to that piece of land.

The closest I have placed a cache is my first one which is between plots in some trees. Every other one is on the outskirts of the property, where most should be.

Joined: 2009-06-05 Posts: 2123 Location: Menominee, MI

Before I archived my own cemetery caches, just about all of them were either in the woods but still on cemetery grounds or in trees on the grounds but away from markers. And all were easy finds with the purpose being the visit to the cemetery itself.

Clever containers have no business being in a cemetery.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:26 pm

Big Problem.

I enjoy cemetery hides but don't do as many as I could. I personally have a problem with this when it's the tree next to the grave stone. Often it's a cedar and there's one on each side of the marker. You have to be digging around and you're tramping on the ground of the grave site. Putting a person "on" the site is even less desirable in my opinion.

BUT, I do love it when the cache owner has pointed out in the cache page some remarkable stones that exist there.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:38 pm

Trekkin and Birdin wrote:

I realize our wonderful ammo boxes in the woods are swiftly becoming a thing of the past...

NO, NO, NO, NO! As long as I can find them for $15 bucks or less, I'm going to use them! If an ammo can works there, I'll put one in. If it get stolen, I'll replace it with an ammo can. But don't expect one to be coming to an urban center near you in the near future. I don't see myself placing them there. Think rural! Cool

(This comment comes from a cacher who has not had a cache stolen...Yet Very Happy

)

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:40 pm

One of our rural ammo cans got stolen... Confused

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:10 pm

One of our rural ones went for a walk a couple years back, too.