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elfdoctors
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

This link under Quick Links does not work. Perhaps the board could look into options to get this site up again (perhaps soliciting volunteers to host the site more cheaply? - or perhaps another way exists to access this data?).

If necessary, I'd rather the board spend money on a site like this rather than an AED.
 
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LightningBugs Mum
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:07 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well, dang!

Looks like things are going to be on hiatus until Dave can figure out how to reduce the server load. I hope he can - it was a great site!

As for getting the WGA involved - my initial reaction would be that if we did that, we would probably have to limit it to those registered here or something. Otherwise we would be quickly running into the same problems.

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Team Deejay
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:59 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I agree with the bug lady. This is really beyond the mission of the WGA to host a statistics site. If you are looking for a program to do your own statistics (rather than look at other peoples), you might try Cachestats, which is available at http://www.logicweave.com/cachestats.html. This program is produced by a WGA member, and I'm sure they would appreciate your support.
 
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elfdoctors
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

While I did not expect the WGA to actually pay the hosting costs, the board might be able to use its resources to find someone who could host the site on an underused server for significantly less money.

Thanks for the link. However, I only get the message "The page cannot be found".
 
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zuma
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I am a huge fan of INATN as well. Of all the stat sites out there, it is by far my favorite, because of the functionality of the counties found section and the county maps. Other sites have some of the other stuff, but INATN is the only one that I know of that sorts finds by county, which I really like a lot. I have looked at the other stat sites, and many duplicate some of the things that I like about INATN, such as the D/T matrix.

I wonder if many people are actually interested in the length of logs or longest log sections, as that is not of much interest, at least not to me, and I gathered that those sections were big ones for the server to handle. So maybe those sections could be eliminated? Just wondering.

I do agree with TLB, that it is beyond the scope of the WGA to fund stat sites, as much as personally enjoy this one.

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Trekkin and Birdin
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:34 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ralph, We like that site, too. We also track with the cachestats program, but appreciate those very same aspects you mentioned, the D/T chart and the ability to sort by location. While it's fun to see who the windbags are (guilty!), that's just fluff and in our opinion, could be dropped.

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Ry and Ny
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:06 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Too new to have needed this, but I've seen the results on other pages and this is tough. It's hit on the larger scale too, as I look at the Groundspeak forums as well (something I'm regularly starting to regret). As always in a case like this, there are a million and one half-assed suggestions for optimization, etc, from a bunch of people who sort of know how to program databases but have no clue how to reorganize them once you've been on a project for some time. Of course all of them offer to help, thinking they're actually going to help.

Unfortunately, you hit times like these and to be honest, the real answer is to either find a way to get it so Dave can host it the way it is or how it's intended or be ready to lament its passing. If you've ever been part of a database project like this where it's been a one man show opened up to other people "helping to reduce the load", I'm sure you can see the same writing.

I've seen profiles using INATN and it's amazing and cool as hell and I can't even wrap my head around someone doing the calcs down to the county level. It's a work of art. Wish I could have been there to play with it. My hat's off to the work that made it happen and I hope to see it continue, but I don't see how.
 
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Team Hemisphere Dancer
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:39 pm Reply with quote Back to top

If the WGA did decide to host it and make a bit of money off of it. Could the membership then have free campouts and Personal geocoins just for being members?



Ok don't take that serious. I am just kidding.

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Ry and Ny
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'm honestly not suggesting that WGA take it over. It's hit a point though where it will need to either a) be commercial so that Dave can afford to keep doing it full scale or b) be severely restricted member-wise to meet current bandwidth requirements.

The sad thing is that either one will require some fun little front end coding that I don't envy writing.
 
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Team Deejay
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

elfdoctors wrote:

Thanks for the link. However, I only get the message "The page cannot be found".


It works for me, just clicking on the link.
 
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PCFrog
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Joined: 2005-05-11
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:17 am Reply with quote Back to top

What is the traffic like?

I ask this since I do pay for a server that hardly come close to going beyond given data transfer amount, but obviously I would need to know what is the monthly usage.

Or is there a way to have two servers take the load?
 
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LightningBugs Mum
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:36 pm Reply with quote Back to top

zuma wrote:
I wonder if many people are actually interested in the length of logs *snip* So maybe those sections could be eliminated?

zuma


Hey! That's the only stat that I was able to break into the top 10!



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