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    Cachew
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    I’m interested if anyone has been able to compare the performance of Garmin’s new ‘x’ series devices to their ‘pre-x’ counterpart. The newer design is advertised to perform much better ‘in challenging conditions, such as heavy foliage or deep canyons.’ I have a GPSMAP 76CS which could be used as a comparison.

    Please don’t make this become a Garmin vs Magellan vs anyone thread. My question is purely technical and only with respect to the GPSMAP 60 and GPSMAP 76 series equipment.

    Thanks, Cachew John

    #1741244

    Team Honeybunnies
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    I’ve been using my new 60 CSx for about 3 weeks now. The first caveat is that I have not owned a previous model in this series, and the second is that I have not played with many other cachers’ receivers.

    That said, I have used the word “sexy”, frequently in earshot of others when describing it. Uncle_Fun has posted some logs with glowing recommendations as well.

    I’ll describe what I’m seeing in the field and you can take it for what you will. In the car moving, first satellite acquire of the day, seems only a bit faster. I can’t quite quantify it. But after turning it off, every subsequent acquisition is sub 2-3 seconds. I’ve regularly had it on indoors and maintained a lock under 25 feet accuracy. My average seems to be 17-21 feet outdoors. Better, but not earth-shattering. Haven’t had it under heavy foliage yet(like just about everyone else in Wisconsin). I did maintain lock under heavy pines while others were losing, but haven’t seen many caches with dense pines in the last few weeks either.

    Memory with the supplied chip holds enough to cover all of Wisconsin, all of Chicagoland and room for a bit more. Upload with USB (my old unit had serial) is under 3 seconds for the 500 or so waypoints I load weekly.

    As for turn-by-turn, if I miss a turn, recalculation is almost instantaneous. Scrolling is faster from what I’ve been told.

    My only complaint has been the tendency to walk past the cache and then come back. I’ve always heard other people talk about this, but didn’t experience it much with our first barebones unit (Garmin Geko 301).

    I’d be interested to hear from people who HAVE had both.

    I’ve pulled down somewhere in the area of 150 caches since it arrived, and my overall impression is extremely favorable.

    #1741245

    ForeFeathers
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    I remember reading somewhere that there may be issues with downloading waypoints with GSAK? I’ve been holding off until I knew that most of the issues were worked out. No problems with this? If not, where do you find the best price on one of these?

    #1741246

    Team Honeybunnies
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    The workaround for GSAK is pretty easy. You export the waypoints to the Mapsource Trip and Waypoint Manager(comes with the unit) and then download it from there to the GPSr. Adds one step with very little hassle. I was a bit apprehensive too, but GSAK has a nice thread on their internal forum that explained it all.

    #1741247

    ForeFeathers
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    This is a little off the thread’s topic but what map software are you using? I have a copy of MapSource United States Topo from a Legend package but I’m guessing that I’d need to spend bucks on software as well as the money for the 60 CSx? I would think that what I have would work but would not allow autorouting? Correct?

    #1741248

    Team Honeybunnies
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    Trip and Waypoint is packaged with the unit, and City Navigator with the street maps and turn-by-turn is 120.00(I think) extra. Not sure on backwards compatibility. Yeah, kinda’ hidden costs, as my 500.00 unit was 700.00 by the time I added software, a power adapter and AA charger.

    #1741249

    ForeFeathers
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    The topo maps work fine. Just with no autorouting. I had no problem with maps or getting waypoints in. Exported them as a Mapsource file and loaded into the GPSr from there. Running around last night I was getting +/- 17 feet and +/- 30 or so in the house. Turned it on inside the house this morning and about 30 seconds later it had a lock. My son’s Legend managed a lock in the house this morning too but lost it very quickly. It is only working with three sats and weak bars. The CSx has 6 pretty strong signals and three weaker ones. I’m just reading the information off the sat screen- don’t know how much it means. We’ll get them out in the woods this weekend and I’ll be back with real-world side by side.

    #1741250

    hogrod
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    I always read that the legend C and the vista C got better reception than the 60c/60cs. I have always been able to get and hold a lock inside biuldings, even down to 10ft accuracy.
    The rubber came loose off my legend C so I sent it in for repairs, garmin sent me a different unit and this one seems just as good for reception.
    of course since the new X models came out things have changed. only the 60/76X models get the sirfIII chip, so these should be much better than the legendCX and the vistaCX.

    I guess a better indoor test would be to hold the unit improperly, if I don’t have the legendC screen up, I will loose signal. Maybe a 60/76X tested indoors held upside down

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