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It would seem that there are more parks in SE Wisconsin with caches than without. There are some Geocacheers that retire their caches in late fall, and put out new ones in spring. Many caches are left in place for a very long time. Does there come a time when a cache needs to be retired? How about if that cache has won an honor like Cache Of The Month? What about putting multiple caches in the same park? Just curious what the great throbbing Geocaching brain thinks.
we are planning on retiring out fishin for rocks this fall. I think after 1.5-2 years a cache should be retired if it is not getting much business anymore. sooner or later we are going to run out of area if caches are not retired and replaced
I think that Soco showed us with This and that, Pins & Needles,etc. that we can put quite a few cachers in a relativelly small area [one square mile] and still keep it interesting. Check the number of caches in the area of Cheesehead Trivia or at one of our events, you should see that it is going to take a lot of caches to reach the point of saturation.
Caches get old when the frequency of your maintenance visits exceeds the frequency of finds. these caches should probably be retired. Virtuals with merit should probably never be retired. We have no intention of retiring Bonito vista al mar. We are finding that any given time, about half of all geocachers are newbies [less than 6 months]. These caches will always be interesting to them and help them to develop some confidence in their newfound skills. Drive-by virtuals should never have been placed and should be retired as soon as the placer comes to the realization how lame they are.
Some caches are seasonal. Jingle Bell Rock comes to mind, and should be retired when the season comes to an end.
Disposable caches, pill bottles indescriminantly strewn across the landscape only serve to boost numbers. They should be retired as soon as the placer realizes that they are just as lame as drive-by virtuals. Havenwoods 1-5
Some physical caches should not be retired. Pike Powder Hike, Covert Cache or The DEATHTRAP have special historic or creative merit that should be shared with the geocaching community as long as the placer can continue to maintain them.
Who got me started? You shouldn’t have asked.. next time just buy the tie.
All good points. A high consideration to retiring a cache would also be impact to the area. Lost city in Madison, while forcibly retired once the University got wind of it, was located in a typical rotting stump. It’s deteriation was accelerated by those removing and replacing the cache to a point that it was pretty well shot by time I found it from people trying to pick off bark and wood pieces, trying to hide it.
I think the longevity merits of a cache should also be based on the log comments. IF people are still enjoying it and IF there is no environmental reason to retire it, keep it going. I have found that what one person considers lame, another finds enjoyment. My view from when I started geocaching hasn’t changed in ”let the logs be the judge”.
In rethinking my reply, there is also the ”old timer’s” problem of new caches drying up within a half hours drive from home. I’ve mixed emotions on this one. Perhaps, some caches should be considered a classic and stay. Perhaps others should retire after a year.
Steve Bukosky
Waukesha[This message has been edited by sbukosky (edited 06-21-2003).]
I do agree that in some areas, there is a limited amount of space available for hiding caches. Also. some hiders may be hesitant to hide a cache in the same park where one already exists, even if there is plenty of space available.
When I hid my first cache, I was unaware that the someone was planning on hiding a cache in the same park. Once mine popped up, they ended up not hiding theirs. After I had archived that cache, they asked if I had plans to rehide a cache in the same park because they had one ready to go, but apparantly didn’t want to impede on my “territory”. I wasn’t going to rehide my cache, so they placed theirs. Personally, I would have had no problem with more caches, as that park was large enough to hide several.
With the recent increase in the number of new cachers, there will probably always be life in even the oldest caches, so I wouldn’t archive them unless the area is really starting to deteriorate or a cache goes unfound for months and you’ve got an idea for a nearby replacement.
Now I think we all heve a general idea of when a cache should be retired.
The next question is when to retire the cacher.
Old Cachers never retire they just finally own their own coordinates.
Has anyone ever found a tombstone with the “Final Coordinates” on it?
Many years from now I would be disappointed if Thorsons final coordinates are not a very hard multi-cache.
A bit morbid in my thinking tonight I guessbut I can imagine a tag behind the stone with new coordinates on it!How about a catalog of retirement homes with coordinates listed? With my advancing dementia I am sure that I would confuse the L’s and wind up in the arctic circle at 43°W.
the beast is currently suffering from and advanced case of Idiopathic arboreal ambulatory disorientation ~ we don’t know why but he spends a lot of time wandering around lost in the woods.
tbIdiopathic arboreal ambulatory disorientation
That would be a great name for a Geocache, don’t you think?
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Originally posted by Buy_The_Tie:
Idiopathic arboreal ambulatory disorientationThat would be a great name for a Geocache, don’t you think?
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do it!Yes, but how would I ever even come close to spelling it in my notebook?
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Originally posted by Priebe’s Pride:
Yes, but how would I ever even come close to spelling it in my notebook?Abbreviate it IAAD.
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