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12/27/2004 at 5:09 am #1721476
Over the past several years, there has been many bear sightings in WI, and this year, several dogs were lost to bear in the northern part of the state. I have had bears cross my path a couple of times now, but luckly, I was in the car and not the woods. A bear has been in the yard at my parents more than once now, but I have yet to see it. Although i’m not aware of any brown bears in WI, I found this study very interesting- http://www.absc.usgs.gov/research/brownbears/pepperspray/pepperspray.htm
Anyone else have any experience with bears?
12/27/2004 at 8:04 am #1748252The two of us were camping at Day Lake in Chequamegon National Forest this past summer. Driving to the dumpster from our campsite, we saw a small Black Bear running down the access road. Luckily, we were in the car at the time, but the entire rest of the weekend, which included hiking a couple of The Lil Otter’s WWF caches, was spent being paranoid of becoming a meal. Looking back, it was an amazing experience seeing a bear. I’m sure such sightings are common for people living in bear country, but for city slickers, it makes for a memorable experience.
Are Black Bears becoming more common in the state?
12/27/2004 at 11:58 am #1748253This is our close encounter: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=96135510-54cf-466b-95e3-f55365fa8e26
Isolation Ridge by UpNorthDoc has several references to Bear Claw Marks in the logs.12/27/2004 at 4:58 pm #1748254I have family that lives just south of Eau Claire in a mostly agricultural area but not too far from the encroaching sprawl. Just a couple years ago, their neighborhood was having a real problem with one bear that moved in and was destroying the bird feeders and generally wreaking havoc. Eventually, the DNR had to trap it and relocate it to the north woods.
I do carry a small pepper spray canister when I head out to the woods, but I may consider upgrading to the more heavy-duty stuff mentioned in the article. Interesting how the bears are obviously repelled by the spray, but attracted to the residue.
12/27/2004 at 6:51 pm #1748255Really interesting article!
When I lived in northern Minnesota we had bear claw marks on trees and telephone poles on our property, but we never once saw the bear.
I always carry pepper spray as well, not only for unruly wildlife, but for unruly humans as well.
12/27/2004 at 7:25 pm #1748256I’ve seen lots of bears in northern Wisconsin, most while riding my 4 wheeler on the ATV trails.
I’ve seen a few bears while hunting. Several have walked under me while I’ve been up in a tree stand. One time when hunting near Eagle River with a buddy, a bear walked up to my friends tree, stood up on it’s back legs and was tasting the air. It was trying to figure out what my friend was. It then walked away and came my direction. I pulled out my camera and took 2 pictures. The bear took off like a bat out of hell when it saw my camera flash. Unfortunately the photos didn’t turn out. I think the camera lens fogged up when I pulled it out of my warm pocket and exposed it to the cold air.
I think it’s an honor to see a bear in the woods. My encounters with them are far too infrequent. I would love to see more of them. Periodically we have one rip the bird feeder off the pole up at our cabin, but haven’t seen anything but it’s foot prints in the sand.
To tell you the truth, bears don’t frighten me at all. I’m more worried about wolves. As the wolf population increases, the number of dogs killed by wolves increases. Wolves are very territorial. They will kill any other canines entering their area. Many hunters are having their beloved companions killed by wolves. This has frequently happened to bear dogs, as well as bird dogs.
I’ve had several encounters with wolves over the past few years. About 3 years ago, my dog was running down a fire lane about 100 yard in front of me. A wolf ran across the trail between me and the dog. I quickly leashed the dog and left the area.
The DNR tells hunters to put a bell on their dogs to help scare away the wolves. This has quickly turned into a dinner bell, and is helping the wolves locate the dog. Many hunters are starting to carry a “wolf kit”. This consists of a camera, GPS and cell phone. You see, in order to get reimbursed for the death of your family member, you need to leave your dog laying in the woods with it’s guts hanging out, then call the DNR to the scene. Then need to “confirm” the wolves killed your dog. Hunters are using the camera, GPS and phone to record the scene so the DNR can locate it and investigate.
Sorry to stray from the bear topic a bit.
12/27/2004 at 8:16 pm #1748257“In light of the rising frequency of human/grizzly bear conflicts, the Wisconsin DNR is advising hikers, hunters, and fishermen (and cachers) to take extra precautions and keep alert for bears while in the woods.
- We advise that outdoorsmen wear little bells on their clothing so as not to startle bears that aren’t expecting them.
- We also advise outdoorsmen to carry pepper spray with them in case of an encounter with a bear.
- It is also a good idea to watch out for fresh signs of bear activity. Outdoorsmen should recognize the difference between black bear and grizzly bear poop.
- Black bear poop is smaller and contains lots of berries and squirrel fur.
- Grizzly bear poop is larger, has little bells in it and smells like pepper spray.
later,
Team GeoPink
Co-conspirators to make the world a better place…12/27/2004 at 8:19 pm #1748258My folks (geocacher named Tuck-A-Way) have a cabin up north near Pembine/Wausaukee. They have a family of bears near them. Have pictures of them just outside the picture window of the trailer. They’ve also lost a couple bird feeders to the things.
We’ve done lots of caches up in that area so we’ve been in their stomping grounds.
Have never come across them while caching, though. Don’t think I’m real eager to, either.12/27/2004 at 11:16 pm #1748259I’ve only seen a bear in the woods while rabbit hunting many years back near crivitz. when we saw it walking on the trail a few hundred yards away we turned around and went the other way even with shotguns(#4 shot), we wouldn’t want to explain to the warden any misshaps that may have happend if we would have continued.
12/28/2004 at 1:06 am #1748260My understanding is that black bears are growing in numbers in Wisconsin, and have even been seen in Door County as well as west of Madison, where one was hit by a car a few years back. Fortunately, there are no Grizzlies around the state. The only time I saw a black bear in the wild was at a town dump near Conover, just north of Eagle River when two young bears were frolicing around. Making noise usually will scare them off, but a bear was once known to have reacted to noise made by a teenage girl, hunting in a tree stand up in northeastern Wisconsin, and climbed up the stand and attacked her. In other words, they can be somewhat unpredictable at times.
12/28/2004 at 3:49 am #1748261Nope never seen a wild bear in Wisconsin. Got a bit closer than warranted to a female black bear and her cubs in the Great Smokey Mountains many years ago. Thankfully, she had the woods to her back (I was crossing a field to get a better look). She made a snorting growl type noise and took off — I did too.
I also got the opportunity to play with a black bear cub once a few years back. A bar owner up in Phillips had a game farm. He had a couple adult bears, but had also gotten a cub, which he was keeping in the basement of the bar. He brought him up to visit once when I stopped in and the bar was vacant. It was a neat experience. For such a youngster (I can’t remember his age, but you could hold him in your arms) he was very strong — especially his mouth. He was a chewer, and could really give you a pinch. He was constantly moving too. And he had an interesting smell — which is apparently a bear smell (it’s sort of like dirt and milk).
I’ve seen wolves up norht, and possibly heard something of the big cat variety, but no bears yet.
Bec
12/28/2004 at 10:18 pm #1748262We have seen bears pretty close up from our deer stands in the Pembine and Antigo areas. They are fun to watch, and a rare treat indeed! We’ve also seen logs of a bear siting near our cache in Oconto County.
Bears are becoming more numerous statewide, and are being seen in new areas besides the northwoods. A large one was hit by a car on Hwy 10 just west of Waupaca this fall, and another big one was taken by a hunter very close to Hartman Creek State Park outside of Waupaca this year.
My understanding is bears are not normally interested in interacting with humans, and will usually hurry off when noise is made. The presence of cubs in the spring, and food can change this. We are alert when out in the woods, and keep a scrupilously clean campsite when out in the wild. Food packs are hoisted up well out of reach. The pepper spray suggestion is good. It will become a part of the GeoJunk we pack!
Thanks for the good stories and good hints.
cYa Gram & Gramps
12/28/2004 at 11:34 pm #1748263I have had no bear encounters while geocaching. I did see two a couple of years ago while I was standing next to my garden and looking out into the field next to it. It was dusk and I noticed two dark spots at the edge of the field. I thought it was a shadow until they moved and ran back into the woods. Last summer we encountered one rambling down our road as we returned home one night. I saw something moving but soon realized it wasn’t a deer when it ran in front of our car for awhile before heading into the woods. Both of those encounters are close enough for me.
When I go geocaching with my kids I’m sure we are way too loud to sneak up on anything.
Ruth
12/29/2004 at 4:24 am #1748264I have seen bear in the wild in Mountain, Antigo, and in the Twin Bridges area. Never during a Geocaching outing.
The one in Mountain was a cub in a tree that I happened to be standing next to and looked up! I thought it was strange that a large racoon was in a tree like that during the day before it occured to me that it was a bear cub!
01/01/2005 at 2:09 pm #1748265With all the caching I do in Illinois, I encounter Bears all the time.
Oh… not those kinds of Bears?
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