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  • #1721667

    Big Yonsson
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    Ive got my PDA (zire 31) and am having a horrible time trying to figure out how to load and view the .loc file on it.The sights Ive tried are just confusing me more:<

    #1749632

    EnergySaver
    Member


    First off … don’t try loading a .loc file into it … it should be a .gpx file. You also say your trying to load YOUR .loc file … the file you want (again .gpx not .loc), is nothing YOU generate from map software for example .. but instead must be generated automatically and emailed to you from a query from the geocaching.com website (and only available if your a paying premium member). This special file contains much more the coordinates, but also all the special data (text, hints, recent finds, etc) that is used by the software that “spins” the files you need. A normal .loc or .gpx file that is generated from your own map software, does not have any of the stuff you need.

    You should be following ALL the instructions at … http://www.geocacher-u.com/resources/paperless.html

    #1749633

    EnergySaver
    Member


    I should maybe clarify my earlier posting (however the link does explain it all) … the are many steps/procedures to set up the whole process … in summary:

    (1) You must have a Premium (Paid) account on http://www.geocaching.com

    (2) When you are logged into your account, clic on [My Account] (over on the left) and then [Member Features] (last item in the Quick View row across the top). From there click on [Pocket Query Generator]. You will use this to setup a “Pocket Query” that will email you a .GPX files with the data for the caches you choose. (In my case, I have it email me every Friday, the 200 caches closest to my zip code, that I have NOT found and are NOT MINE).

    (3) You need to install software on your DESKTOP computer called “Spinner”. When you get your .GPX file emailed to you … you can use the .GPX file to load coordinates into your GPSr (assuming you have a cable) … but for PDA users, you also feed the .GPX file into “Spinner”. “Spinner” then creates (or “spins”) a tiny local website on your DESKTOP computer of all the geocaches that were in the .GPX file (in my case, 200 caches). “Spinner” is a geocaching specific piece of software, that you can download for free.

    (4) But now you have to get “spun” website on to your Palm or Pocket PC. This is why you need to download free software called “Plucker” (it’s not just for geocaching, but putting any website on a PDA). “Plucker” has 2 parts, one for on your DESKTOP and one for on your Palm or Pocket PC. The Desktop portion prepares the files for your PDA, and PDA portion allows you to view the various cache web pages, onces you’ve sync’d them to your PDA.

    Lots of steps … lots of things to understand. Unfortunately that’s the way it is. But the link in my prior posting takes you through it. Once you get it setup, the “weekly” process is something you get use to doing and goes quicker. If your not really comfortable around computers, you might want to have a friend help you out that is.

    #1749634

    Docapi
    Member


    Another option would be to use GSAK and Cachemate.

    GSAK is a program for the PC, lets you make dastabases of all of the GPX files. Free to try, $20 to buy and get rid of the nag screen. Well worth the money.

    Cachemate is a program for your PDA that lets you display the files nicely. $8- again well worht it.

    Generate a pocket Query of GPX files. Open the zip file that comes in your e-mail- this should load the files into GSAK.

    You can manipulate the files in GSAK however you wish.

    When you are ready to load them onto your PDA, click File, then Export, then Cachemate PDB file.

    That will create a file that will load onto your PDA at the next Hotsync.

    On your PDA, open Cachemate, and it will let you choose where you want the new file loaded to.

    Done!

    #1749635

    Big Yonsson
    Participant


    That last one really helps.
    I will follow it when I get home.
    You have been a great deal of help:>

    #1749636

    Todd Bloomingdale
    Participant


    I started out using the spinner/plucker method. It was ok. but I thought it was too many steps! Then i ventured to cachemate and GSAK. Oh I dont think I would want it any other way! Its so easy as 123. Click to your GPS then click to your PDA and your on your way!!

    If you have any questions, just ask.

    smokey


    “Be safe and Keep on Searchin”

    #1749637

    EnergySaver
    Member


    I will have to give Cachmate a try … I had read somewhere that it “bogs down” your PDA and that Plucker runs smoother/quicker once on the PDA. Maybe they were wrong and I should give it a try.

    I do like how with Spinner/Plucker that from any cache it shows you the 5 nearest caches in the file. Does Cachemate do something like that too?

    #1749638

    Miata
    Participant


    Cachemate does not slow down your PDA at all, very smooth. I was just playing with Cachemate to answer your question and see a feature where you can project a waypoint….I never knew that existed. If you have the calc plugin loaded, you can do a quick search of ALL closest caches with the 7 closest on the screen without scrolling. I have a cheap Sony Clie’, so it’s not a powerful PDA by any means.
    It’s worth the $8 that Smitty asks for registration.

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    Originally posted by EnergySaver:
    I will have to give Cachmate a try … I had read somewhere that it “bogs down” your PDA and that Plucker runs smoother/quicker once on the PDA. Maybe they were wrong and I should give it a try.

    I do like how with Spinner/Plucker that from any cache it shows you the 5 nearest caches in the file. Does Cachemate do something like that too?


    #1749639

    GeoPink
    Participant


    I use both Cachemate and Plucker.

    I use CacheMate as my own personal repository of most of the caches I’ll ever visit (currently holds around 1900 caches.)

    I use Plucker only for smaller lists of specific caches I know I’ll be hunting soon (only about 300-500 at a time)

    This is simply because CacheMate can store a trmendous amount of caches without hogging the memory and Plucker, with all the images and similiarity to an actual html page, is a huge memory hog (for those of us who do not have a lot of it to go around).

    Try them both and see what you like. If I had to go with one or the other, I’d go for the Plucker/GSAK Combo. That’s just me though.


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    #1749640

    WindowLicker
    Member


    I just started using Cachemate it seems real easy to use, once you figure out how to export to your PDA and it does not slow down your PDA if you know what you are doing. I am also using Plucker/Gsak.

    #1749641

    EnergySaver
    Member


    I used the “Spinner/Plucker” combination for a couple weeks … now thanks to the feedback on this board I loaded up “Cachemate” last night … played around with all the settings and stuff for an hour or so (I paid the $8, so I had full functions).

    The two products certainly have very different approaches to being paperless. I suspect that I’m a convert to “Cachemate”. While I’m pretty handy around computers, thus dealing with “Spinner” then “Plucker” does not really slow me down; I’m thinking why bother with all the extra steps (even if they are not that bad). “Cachemate” does have a lot more setting/preferences that you need to play with to get it to your liking … for some reason I didn’t notice at first that I could set it to search near caches listing the “miles” and thought I was stuck with “kilometers”; once I notice that I could change this, I was really happy with the product.

    For those that like that fact the “Plucker” shows everthing on one scrollable screen; it’s nice that “Cachemate” has an option of Defaulting to “Overview” mode; which shows the “Info”, “Description” and “Past Logs” screens all as one continous screen.

    The big PLUS to me with “Cachemate” is the built in function to “log” your find and mark a cache as “Found It” (“Plucker” is basically a “Read Only” series of web pages).

    The one thing you can do with “Spinner/Plucker” that you can not do with “Cachemate” is that you can view your “Spinner” web-world on your Desktop computer, which I found handy for planning a series of caches to find “off line”; “Cachemate” does not offer a Desktop version and does not plan to. Also, I do like how “Plucker” automatically shows you the 5 closest caches at the bottom of each cache listing; but the flexibility of “Cachemate”‘s cache proximity search (being able to limit a proximity direction) and the fact that it saves your search table, out ways the couple extra clicks you need to perform.

    [This message has been edited by EnergySaver (edited 05-25-2005).]

    #1749642

    djwini
    Participant


    i just picked up cachemate after reading this thread. i like the ease of use. i also like that you can enter a note to it. that lack made me decide not to go paperless. now i might rethink that option. the only drawback so far that i have found is the need to scroll to a WP. with plucker, there were lists of letters to chose to get close to the one you want.

    #1749643

    Miata
    Participant


    There is a find closest caches option in Cachemate if you have the calc plugin loaded. I set mine to the closest 5 caches. I found this helpful today when I had 250 caches loaded and did only 4 of them.

    On my specialized trips, I limit the number of caches in cachemate and on my GPS’s, so finding the cache names.

    #1749644

    EnergySaver
    Member


    quote:


    Originally posted by djwini:
    the only drawback so far that i have found is the need to scroll to a WP. with plucker, there were lists of letters to chose to get close to the one you want.


    you CAN jump to a letter … it’s just not really obvious …

    Lets say you want to find a cache called “Surfing with DJ”, but your way up there by the caches starting with A. Simply draw a “S” in the Grafetti area and you will be jumped to the beginning of the caches starting with “S”. Now draw a “U” and you will be by the caches starting with “Su”. Still not close enough, then add the “R”, etc.

    I’m assuming that it also works if you activate the on-screen keyboard, rather than Grafetti Writing, but I’ve not tried it.

    #1749645

    EnergySaver
    Member


    Another tip …

    Let’s say you have certain Cities you like to cache in a multiple weekends. In my case I have about 2 years worth of caches in West Bend, a couple weeks worth in Sheboygan, etc.

    In “Cachemate” create a new category, I called it “Cities”. Then from the cache selection screen, hit the [New] button to create a new cache entry; give it a cache name like “West Bend”, select the category of “Cities” (or whatever you named the new category), then in the coordinates area type coordinates that would be central to that city (or copy/paste them from a cache you have loaded that is already in the area you want).

    Now you’ve got a “fake” cache entry that is central to a specific city. Make more of them, as you wish. Now you simply select your category (in my case “Cities”), click on the name of the city … then activate the “Search Nearby Caches” function, making sure that you set the search screen category to All (or the category you have the real caches stored in) … and now you presented with a list of caches that center from that city (or at least the coordinates you used for that city).

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