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07/12/2006 at 2:47 am #172348107/12/2006 at 5:33 am #1763459
I think this is outstanding. I can propose 2 improvements.
1. I think there needs to be some allowance for seasonal caches. There are certain caches out there that really should be disabled during the winter (or maybe the anti-winter, although I haven’t run into any of those). Perhaps a requirement that specific open and closed dates be listed on the cache page would address this.
2. Perhaps you might want to add some verbiage allowing for a greater than 4 weeks for repair in “special circumstances”, leaving it up to the reviewer to decide if the circumstances are, indeed, special. I can’t really think of anything I would approve, but it is probably worthwhile to leave an official “out.”
Thanks for pursuing this.
07/12/2006 at 12:56 pm #1763460I like the idea – let’s go!
07/12/2006 at 1:44 pm #1763461Question:
What if you disable your cache for the winter, with full intent of making it active once the snow/ice leaves?? Will this be written in as a exception??
07/12/2006 at 2:05 pm #1763462The only thing I would add is something that I recently ran into (thanks for helping, Tie!). There should also be a provision for neglected caches. If a cache has apparently gone missing but the owner makes no move to check on, repair or disable the cache (in this case since October) then the same procedure should apply. Using disabling of a cache as the trigger for this procedure may not catch all of the caches that need help. Perhaps adding some sort of “reporting” form would work.
This is a fabulous idea that would greatly enhance the sport in our state. Thanks for the hard work!
07/12/2006 at 2:21 pm #1763463@GOJeepers wrote:
The only thing I would add is something that I recently ran into (thanks for helping, Tie!). There should also be a provision for neglected caches. If a cache has apparently gone missing but the owner makes no move to check on, repair or disable the cache (in this case since October) then the same procedure should apply. Using disabling of a cache as the trigger for this procedure may not cache all of the caches that need help. Perhaps adding some sort of “reporting” form would work.
This is a fabulous idea that would greatly enhance the sport in our state. Thanks for the hard work!
Yep on in agreement with this I know of two caches which the owners have not replaced or marked as disabled…How do we make these go away? One has been this way for 8 months and the other for three.
07/12/2006 at 2:31 pm #1763464I think this is an excellent idea! The concerns that a couple people posted above are really sort-of covered in the line reading:
“If the owner responds, a dialogue will continue to decide the fate of the cache”That will allow people to make the plea for a seasonal cache, etc.
I might add one “fun” thing that might make someone more likely to help out if cache retrieval of an abandoned cache is needed. Make a cache page that people can log for the retrieval of dead caches. Allow the person who retrieves the dead cache to not only log the cache they’re retrieving (if they haven’t previously), but also allow the person to claim a smiley for retrieving it by logging on the imaginary cache that they’ve picked it up.
I’m thinking of a cache similar to the Travel Bug Graveyard where you can permanently deposit missing TB’s. It would have to be set up as an Event Cache, or similar.
07/12/2006 at 7:18 pm #1763465Most of the idea sounds good. I would like to see you allow 4 weeks for an owner to respond rather than just 2 weeks. There have often been times in the past where I haven’t been able to view my e-mail for 3-4 weeks. 😛
07/12/2006 at 7:21 pm #1763466@OuttaHand wrote:
I might add one “fun” thing that might make someone more likely to help out if cache retrieval of an abandoned cache is needed. Make a cache page that people can log for the retrieval of dead caches. Allow the person who retrieves the dead cache to not only log the cache they’re retrieving (if they haven’t previously), but also allow the person to claim a smiley for retrieving it by logging on the imaginary cache that they’ve picked it up.
I’m thinking of a cache similar to the Travel Bug Graveyard where you can permanently deposit missing TB’s. It would have to be set up as an Event Cache, or similar.
How about something along the lines of what MiGo has set up?
07/12/2006 at 7:40 pm #1763467@Cheesehead Dave wrote:
How about something along the lines of what MiGo has set up?
I really like what they did with that. Makes a lot of sense to make sure that any archived caches actually are missing/picked-up because if they are accidentally discovered and the public panics it could be a publicity nightmare.
07/12/2006 at 9:52 pm #1763468Yup — that’s the way to do it! MiGO has it figured out there.
That’s almost exactly what I had in mind.
Added: Do we know if doing one of those MI cleanups actually adds a “Found It” to the cacher’s find count at GC.com ?07/12/2006 at 10:14 pm #1763469@Buy_The_Tie wrote:
1. All caches that have been disabled more than 3 Months would get a friendly note posted to the cache page by a geocaching.com administrator.
In addition to this or as an alternative, you should probably contact owners through their geocaching.com profile page… especially since we know some people no longer read all the logs made for their caches. 😉
@OuttaHand wrote:
Do we know if doing one of those MI cleanups actually adds a “Found It” to the cacher’s find count at GC.com ?
I’m pretty sure there is no tie in with geocaching.com here (so no finds for rescuing a cache). I’d think that allowing people to log finds for caches that are not really there or for picking up the pieces of a destroyed cache would elicit a negative response from the cache logging nazis (the same people who hate multiple Attended logs for events).
Since one of the top requested features by the beta testers of the new site was a Cache Rescue system, I will work with Brian (Tie) to come up with something. If a couple other members feel strongly about this and want to be involved in defining this feature, let me know. In addition to posting and recording rescue “missions” like the MiGO site, we could also have functionality that would help the approvers identify caches that have been disabled too long and let members report neglected caches that aren’t yet disabled.
07/12/2006 at 11:11 pm #1763470😀 Great idea! I can think of 2 that would qualify!
07/13/2006 at 2:24 am #1763471@Cache_boppin_BunnyFuFu wrote:
Question:
What if you disable your cache for the winter, with full intent of making it active once the snow/ice leaves?? Will this be written in as a exception??
I believe that there should be as much flexibility as possible to allow for unusual or extenuating circumstances, and disabled for the winter would be just such a circumstance.
07/13/2006 at 2:28 am #1763472@Lostby7 wrote:
Yep on in agreement with this I know of two caches which the owners have not replaced or marked as disabled…How do we make these go away? One has been this way for 8 months and the other for three.
The best way to make this happen would be to post a “Should Be Archived” note on the cache page, with a reasonable explanation as to why.
If the owner is still paying attention (and cares), they will either fix or archive the cache. If they aren’t paying attention (or don’t care), then an admin can archive the cache.
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