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  • #1723713

    🙄 I know I am going to get verbally abused for this 🙄

    ❓ Tell me why Wisconsin is the only state that multiple logs event caches???????

    I posted a forum post on Groundspeak about this question and others there agreed with me that this should not be allowed. Others said its just the way some people play the game to pad there numbers.

    I guess that is why we have never attended a event in Wisconsin, We are not smiley hounds.

    MY VIEW: One Cache Page, One GC**** Number, Wouldn’t that be One LOG, and ONE SMILEY

    #1765340

    It is one event. For the WGA picnic you attended and got a smiley. Everyone who logged a found temp cache did not get credit for extra finds that I know of. We just logged the event as attended.

    #1765341

    Did I hear a can opener?

    Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

    I like to go geocaching. I didn’t log multiple finds at the one event I attended, and if I attend future events I will log the event once. However, I have 8) lurked 8) long enough here and at Groundspeak to know that many others who also like to go geocaching have many good reasons to log each temporary cache.
    And, if I met a “multiple-logger” at the final coords for a geocache like Ice Age Vista, for example, I pretty much doubt that the subject of numbers would even come up. But, I don’t doubt we would both say, “Wow, what a spectacular view!” in pretty much the same way.

    Cache for fun, log the way you want.

    #1765342

    Actually there are pockets around the country that share the same practice; ultimately if it’s allowed by the cache page owner, it is up to each individual to decide for themselves if they wish to log more than once. There are lots of good arguments for and against and to be honest it is a very tired subject.
    To each his (her) own.

    #1765343

    For me it is simple. You find a cache, you log a cache.

    In other words. If you took a trip outside your local caching area with a few friends and family. And lets say on that trip, you went to a new state park. You stop and spend the whole day there, hiking for miles, finding lets say 10 caches that day. Would you claim all of them, or just the first one? The answer to this question is undoubtedly the same as the answer to your question… Right?

    Why oh why does it always have to be about the numbers. I know this has been said, but I’m saying it again. It would be SOOOOOO great, if the user was the only one that couls see thier totals. Relax. Enjoy the sport. Not everything has to be a competition.

    I have only attended ONE event with temporary caches. I took the time to write something different about just about all of them, because I want to remeber all of them. So, I claimed all of them. I will continue to do this, and maybe someday get my way. The , it won’t matter to anyone but me.

    Just my 2 cents.

    #1765344

    Geocaching in a way tried to stop the multiple logging, when they changed events from found to attended, figuring that people would get the point that you can only attend something once, right, If you go to someone wedding and say go out to the car, then come back in did you attend it twice? ❓

    And, the event that we did attend was in a city park over 3 hours from home in another state, we spent the entire day there, searched for many of the temporary caches there, ONLY LOGGED ONCE, listing the caches that we found.

    #1765345

    Ok… here’s my two cents… who cares if people log an event once or if they log every temp they find? There is no prize to be the one with the most logs. There is no title to go with the finds. Geocaching is just to have some fun. If it is more fun for people to sit in front of the computer and log each temporary find… good for them. It has absolutely no effect on me or anyone else for that matter. If people have just as much fun logging the event once and not logging temporary finds, that is just peachy keen too. Again… it has no effect on me what so ever. So do we really have to bring this up yet again? Now, if we really want to have a meaningful discussion… why do some people mow their lawns in straight lines, some in diagonals and some just go around and around the perimeter until there is nothing left to mow. I, for example, make sure that I never mow the grass in the same way twice. Today I was making figure eights and star patterns in the lawn. Do I say that everyone should do what I do? No. But I got my lawn mowed just the same… and I had fun doing it to. Sounds a little like geocaching… doesn’t it?

    #1765346

    Sweetlife…………..chill !!
    It’s not that big of a deal.
    Each to his/her own.

    There must be something more important for you to use all of that energy on.

    #1765347

    @sweetlife wrote:

    If you go to someone wedding and say go out to the car, then come back in did you attend it twice? ❓

    Uhm… No. But that would be the same wedding you would be attending twice. Kind of doesn’t apply to 10 different caches.

    I see your point though. If I went to the wedding and left and came back I would not say I was there twice. But say I had 10 drinks there (whew!) I would deffinitly be counting all of them! 😆

    #1765348

    If people feel like they have to write a individual log for each temporary that they found, why not post it as a note????

    They are getting the satisfaction of posting each cache that they found, but not padding their numbers.

    On Ground speak forums we came up with this idea, to add a line to the profile counts to have a “unique cache count” that will only count a cache once

    No matter how many times you find and drop the same travel bug, it only counts the first time, If groundspeak will only count a travel bug once, why not caches too.

    I guess that we are proud to say that all of our finds are actual caches, If we find 50 in a day (which we have done) its a sun up to sun down day with lots of miles logged, not finding 50 in a couple of square miles in a state park.

    Granted you are seeing allot of nice areas in nice park, but I would rather visit the great areas all over our state, Geocaching has shown us things that we would have never seen without this great sport.

    we received a private message from someone (we will withhold the name) who is currently going back thru their logs and removing all the multiple logs. KUDOS to you.

    #1765349

    Log ’em….. don’t log ’em….. Your choice.

    Complain about it… don’t complain about it… Your choice.

    The BOD for the WGA voted a while ago… multiple log WGA events if you want, don’t multiple log WGA events if you don’t want to.

    We were simply following Jeremy Irish’s sentiment on the whole thing (he doesn’t care).

    Now, let’s move on to something *really* important by comparison…. re-designing the WGA logo.

    #1765350

    Ahhh… the dead horse 🙂 . Needs a few flies, because she’s been dead a loooong time. Couldn’t we leave this on the national boards where angst and hand-wringing are a sanctioned pasttime?

    This bugbear rears it’s pestilential head every year and every year we all espouse our opinions and go back to our corners convincing no one but ourselves. That won’t prevent me from opining a bit once more. I will say in advance that these opinions are mine only, and if anyone respects my opinion they shouldn’t. There’s no such thing as an expert geocacher

    I don’t log event finds, but that doesn’t make me some kind of white knight. It makes me someone who has chosen to play the game MY way. Period. When the cache owner specifically states that your are allowed to log multiple stages on a multi cache, I do. That does not make me a minion from the fiery pits of hell. It makes me someone who has chosen to play the game MY way. Period. Geocaching.com is not a governing body, it is a listing service.

    If the numbers aren’t important, why is so much time and energy expended on other peoples’ numbers? If people play for numbers, great. It is the pleasure they are deriving from our hobby. If people play because their dog likes the taste of broken McToys, great. It is the pleasure they are deriving from the hobby.

    I’m sure the family down the street who logged their third find couldn’t give a fig about any of this. They’d probably more likely be baffled that anyone would spend all of their free time doing this. Would you punish them for logging the cache they found at an event? And why? To what purpose?

    Sorry that I’ve done nothing but fuel this discussion, but I needed to say that 😳 . Here’s your stick back Tie.

    #1765351

    @Team Honeybunnies wrote:

    Ahhh… the dead horse 🙂 . Needs a few flies, because she’s been dead a loooong time. Couldn’t we leave this on the national boards where angst and hand-wringing are a sanctioned pasttime?

    This bugbear rears it’s pestilential head every year and every year we all espouse our opinions and go back to our corners convincing no one but ourselves. That won’t prevent me from opining a bit once more. I will say in advance that these opinions are mine only, and if anyone respects my opinion they shouldn’t. There’s no such thing as an expert geocacher

    I don’t log event finds, but that doesn’t make me some kind of white knight. It makes me someone who has chosen to play the game MY way. Period. When the cache owner specifically states that your are allowed to log multiple stages on a multi cache, I do. That does not make me a minion from the fiery pits of hell. It makes me someone who has chosen to play the game MY way. Period. Geocaching.com is not a governing body, it is a listing service.

    I couldn’t have said it better myself, Hon.

    And here’s another one for good measure:

    (Sorry, I just can’t resist a good animated gif.)

    #1765352

    @Team Honeybunnies wrote:

    Ahhh… the dead horse 🙂 . Needs a few flies, because she’s been dead a loooong time. Couldn’t we leave this on the national boards where angst and hand-wringing are a sanctioned pasttime?

    This bugbear rears it’s pestilential head every year and every year we all espouse our opinions and go back to our corners convincing no one but ourselves. That won’t prevent me from opining a bit once more. I will say in advance that these opinions are mine only, and if anyone respects my opinion they shouldn’t. There’s no such thing as an expert geocacher

    I don’t log event finds, but that doesn’t make me some kind of white knight. It makes me someone who has chosen to play the game MY way. Period. When the cache owner specifically states that your are allowed to log multiple stages on a multi cache, I do. That does not make me a minion from the fiery pits of hell. It makes me someone who has chosen to play the game MY way. Period. Geocaching.com is not a governing body, it is a listing service.

    If the numbers aren’t important, why is so much time and energy expended on other peoples’ numbers? If people play for numbers, great. It is the pleasure they are deriving from our hobby. If people play because their dog likes the taste of broken McToys, great. It is the pleasure they are deriving from the hobby.

    I’m sure the family down the street who logged their third find couldn’t give a fig about any of this. They’d probably more likely be baffled that anyone would spend all of their free time doing this. Would you punish them for logging the cache they found at an event? And why? To what purpose?

    Sorry that I’ve done nothing but fuel this discussion, but I needed to say that 😳 . Here’s your stick back Tie.

    Exactly my thoughts on the whole topic. This is a hobby that people can play their own way.
    Cache, Don’t Cache
    Log, Don’t Log
    Meet People, Don’t Meet people

    Do it your way, and don’t bother others about your position on it.
    My added 2 cents

    #1765353

    @sweetlife wrote:

    No matter how many times you find and drop the same travel bug, it only counts the first time, If groundspeak will only count a travel bug once, why not caches too.

    Why not ask Groundspeak that question?

    @sweetlife wrote:

    I guess that is why we have never attended a event in Wisconsin, We are not smiley hounds.

    Perhaps before you continue to judge those who have been logging the temps, you should go to an event and see for yourself what goes on. Perhaps you should take your GPSR with you and walk the miles of trails seeking hides along the way. Perhaps then you’d stop talking about things you’ve not experienced for yourself.

    @sweetlife wrote:

    I guess that we are proud to say that all of our finds are actual caches, If we find 50 in a day (which we have done) its a sun up to sun down day with lots of miles logged, not finding 50 in a couple of square miles in a state park.

    That’s s lot of crap! Every cache one finds with the help of a GPSR is an actual cache! Come down from your soap box and take a look at the hides at an event. Many of them are better than a stupid micro on a post. Many are better than a tupperware container under a bush! Many are more unique and well hidden (sometimes in plain sight), than any we’ve found at the end of a 5 mile hike up a mountain. You haven’t seen them so stop talking about them!

    Numbers have never been too important to us. We used to walk and log as many as possible at events. We thought if we found it with our GPSR’s, we should log it! The hides used to be fewer, and more unique. As time went on and the events grew, we found that there were too many times of walking up to someone else holding the logbook (stamp, whatever) and passing it around. For us it was a personal contest to see how many we could get in a day. The hides became too many, and in many cases, seemingly “numbers” oriented. They just weren’t as fun to seek any more. We decided for ourselves to stop logging them because of these reasons. We still walked the hides, we just began taking our time and socializing more. We never criticized others for continuing to log them though. We did walk the trails, we did find the hides, we did actively participate, and we did log them. And yet, we don’t judge the masses for not stopping the logs when we did.

    @sweetlife wrote:

    Granted you are seeing allot of nice areas in nice park, but I would rather visit the great areas all over our state, Geocaching has shown us things that we would have never seen without this great sport.

    That’s awesome! Glad you’ve seen some great things around the state. Have you looked at where your fellow cachers have been? Have you seen whether or not they too have traveled the state, country, world in search of caches? Or have you assumed that the only logs they get are the ones the get from events? Our team has logged caches in some 17 states and traveled to 2 Mega events. One of those events had temp hides for people to log. They even created a “bogus” cache page for people to log the hides on. Only thing is, at the event someone decided that logging the hides would cause too much controversy and they didn’t want to deal with it. Not because of what it was so much, but because there was already so much happening about the “world record” hunt. We were told they didn’t want to deal with both things. So the end result was that they archived the “bogus” page and didn’t pass out the GC number like they planned.

    @sweetlife wrote:

    we received a private message from someone (we will withhold the name) who is currently going back thru their logs and removing all the multiple logs. KUDOS to you.

    If that’s what they choose to be right for them, then that’s good for them. Others shouldn’t be criticized for leaving their logs in place.

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