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I apologize if this has been covered already but to be clear, do I have to submit the form prior to listing the cache or can I do it once the cache has been approved? I ask because I’d hate to submit the form only to have the cache not get approved….
It will need to be in before the cache is approved.
@Team Hemisphere Dancer wrote:
It will need to be in before the cache is approved.
…and if it doesn’t get approved it is a waste of the DNRs time and will result in the filing of a cache that does not exist…..
If you need to, you can amend the location on the form by calling the DNR contact. Of course, if you think there is a problem, you could always get an opinion from an approver before submitting the cache/form.
The DNR form a notification form, not a form requiring approval.
It should be submitted to the DNR prior to submitting the cache page to geocaching.com.
@buy_the_tie wrote:
The DNR form a notification form, not a form requiring approval.
It should be submitted to the DNR prior to submitting the cache page to geocaching.com.
Which is my point….not to cause waves but as it is a notification and not a permissionary document, can’t it be submitted after the cache is approved….or after the approver gives the all clear but before the cache is activated?
I submitted a prefilled out form other then coordinates and container info to a local State Park Ranger and he said once I hide it just let him know where it is.
I would think that if you submit the form and then tell them where you think it might be placed they could determine on the spot if it is a sensitive area. If it is not in a sensitive area then once it gets approved just give them a call with the coordinates and you’re good to go.
I think that those of us regularly using state land for caches should probably be a little more aware of the placement rules to avoid a lot of “false starts”. The approvers can chime in, but I would assume that rejected caches on state land mostly fall in to two categories: SNAs and cache saturation.
If you are anywhere close to an SNA, it is worth the effort to talk to the rangers before starting to get their interpretation of where the SNA begins and ends. Don’t be surprised if you get something like “Ya know, with that fancy GPS of yours, you and I could do a bang up job of mapping this SNA.”
With cache proximity, like others have said in the past, you really need to try to solve all the multis and mystery caches in a particular park before attempting to place a cache in said park. If you really can’t solve it, you can always call the owner for the coords. Admittedly, sometimes people will put the “fake” coordinates a long way from the final, but that is pretty rare. Once you know where everything is, you can obviously check this before submitting either form.
Yes, it takes some effort to make sure your placement is OK before submitting it, but it sure saves time in the long run for everyone.
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