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05/16/2007 at 11:07 pm #1724850
Just curious. I suspect that most people use more than one technique, but since the poll only allows single choices, please select the one that is most applicable.
For me, I find I’ve been looking online more often (ever since gc.com made it fast). But most applicable to me is probably the PDA in the car.
05/16/2007 at 11:12 pm #1874517Also, if you only bring up the hint if needed at the cache site, how do you define “if needed”? After 5 minutes of searching? After an extensive search? Very quickly if it’s a “target rich” area?
05/16/2007 at 11:53 pm #1874518There are a lot of hints that turn out to be useless, so I have CacheMate programmed to automatically decrypt them. A quick glance will tell if it’s important.
05/17/2007 at 12:07 am #1874519I don’t print out the cache info unless it’s a complex puzzle cache or multi. What I do is take the back side of all this paper we’ve used around the house and write down the name, coords and the hint for as many caches as I can fit on it. These are usually organized by “trip,” so that I have one or two pieces stuffed in my pocket on any given cache outing.
We plug in the coords and head on down the trail. I look at the clue. We find the cache (usually) and look at the clue for help (usually). I cross them off as we find them, make note of anything we left or took, go home and log them.
Some caches we could find without the hint, but we’ve hit enough tough ones where the hint made the difference between logging a find and DNF that we like to have them along.
05/17/2007 at 12:16 am #1874520I copy the text from the cache page to a Word Doc. I include ONLY the required info…cache name, coords, hint if needed, and other important information from the page like parking or what not. I can usually get about 8-10 caches on a single sheet of paper. When I go on a numbers run I can do it with about 5 sheets of paper.
I still don’t have a PDA…someday.05/17/2007 at 3:18 am #1874521i usually make a printout of the caches i am planning on doing that day using GSAK. including the decoded hints. get to the cache site, look at the hint and away i go. very rarely, i will look first and then if i can’t find the cache, i will read the hint. i’m not out there to frustrate myself. i want a reward for my walk.
05/17/2007 at 4:04 am #1874522I don”t own a Palm Pilot so I used to print out the sheets on every cache but the waste of paper and ink was getting crazy. I then employed Lost by 7’s technique for a bit but that seemed to take way too much time. I tried out the handwritten summary on a piece of paper method for a while but I gave that up due to hand cramps and the fact that I couldn’t always read my writing. Then I discovered the joys of GSAK! No more sitting up late at night entering in slews of coords. No more doubts about the coords I entered.
I select a “base cache” and do a search of the nearest caches I have not found. I select the caches to download, do a page print preview, shrink the pages to fit onto two printed sheets, and I print the pages before the download. I then write any notes or clues I may need for the caches I’ve selected (those with a check mark in the box).
I usually leave this sheet in my car unless I have to hike further than a third of a mile and/or it the area has a lot of muggles roaming around. I don’t want to draw too much attention with a protracted search.
I then use the sheets to check off the caches as I go, to record the caches condition, and to log GC and TB numbers.
I usually read the clues when I review cache pages on-line and I regularly use clues for caches hidden by certain people. An ammo box in the woods does not usually require a hint but a hint on a micro in a public area or three fourth of a mile into the middle of nowhere is often appreciated.
Anyone who says they don’t use clues is kidding nobody but themselves. They are probably the same cachers who never post a DNF and they justify it with some form of abstract logic that makes them sound righteous and pure. I would guess that they have everything loaded on their Palm, stashed securely in their pocket; as a security blanket and insurance.
I don’t carry a cell phone on me and I’ve never “phoned a friend” while on a hunt. Clues and assistance come in many forms and we all rely on these from time to time.
I’ve got a $99 Etrex and I’m lucky to get reception at all in many locations. My GPSr does not have an external antenna and I’m happy if the cache is found within 30 feet of my closest thing resembling a GZ. Who needs clues if your GPSr is top of the line?
I also find it irresponsible not to employ clues in environmentally sensitive areas. We’ve all seen the damage done by cachers who tear apart logs and stumps when the cache is hanging two feet over their head or sitting 20 feet away in plain sight.
I’ve found my fair share of caches without the assistance of a clue because none was provided and I’ve posted many DNF’s even with a clue.
It’s not about the clue or hint. It’s about responsible caching. If you can find the cache in 5 minutes without touching anything or damaging anything, then go ahead and don’t look at the clue. Just remember that every step we take in the woods may have consequences.
05/17/2007 at 12:20 pm #1874523I’m not averse to taking advantage of what’s available, IF it’s available. I have a palm pilot, but rarely use it. I still print cache pages out, but try to condense it a bit using a Google map with other nearby caches plotted, and handwriting info down on that map page. I try to memorize each cache with its specifics, although my memory tends to fade on me at times.
05/17/2007 at 2:37 pm #1874524I search the area around GZ for a few minutes then get out the PDA to look at the page again along with any available hints.
05/17/2007 at 5:58 pm #1874525You can save a bit of ink if you print them on PDF format as well (available on the cache page). I still use my Palm Pilot, but if it is a multi-cache or puzzle cache, it is hard sometimes to read the Palm “in the field” and easier to have the paper with me. Just remember to decrypt the hint prior to printing in PDF format from the cache page. On occasion, I have found that certain things print a little weird with the PDF format, but for the most part it is worth it to save the ink!
05/17/2007 at 7:05 pm #1874526I think it’s funny how the comments are more about how/if you print the cache page, rather than what you do with the hints … not that it bothers me, just think it’s interesting.
To prove it doesn’t bother me: My GPSrs and Palm always have the 300 closest caches that I’ve not found (more for variety/options, since we only find 3 or 4 per outting), but I do typically “research” caches on the website before leaving the house, mainly because the stupid pocketquery page still does not work when you try to eliminate caches marked “no dogs”.
Now the original survey question: I decode “as needed” on my PDA if we spend more than about 5 minutes looking for the cache. Sometimes if we take visitors with us, I might decode right away in hopes that I can figure out where the cache is without really looking, then have a good laugh watching our visitors try to find it.
05/17/2007 at 8:12 pm #1874527I almost never look at the hints. Most times it just gives to much away. I will however sneak a peak on caches I’ve already heard are tough to find.
On the other hand, I have no problem using the phone-a-friend technique when necessary.
05/18/2007 at 3:14 am #1874528I have been doing the paperless caching thing since around Christmas. I typically don’t look at the hints unless I looked for at least ten minutes then I often will look at hint and read a few of the latest logs to see if I can fins additional hints.
I haven’t printed out a cache page since I got my PDA. I’m a little bit of the obsessive type and I have the whole state broken down into miles from my house and based on where I’m at I just load that file of caches into the GPSr and then select that database on the Palm.
The only ones that are problems are puzzle caches that have pictures attached to them as I don’t attach the pictures to the caches in GSAK. So for these I make sure that I have solved puzzles before I head out and that I have entered the corrected coordinates in GSAK. This way it is just another cache. I have different icons on the GPSr for unsolved and solved puzzle caches this way I know whether or not I need to solve them or I already have.
05/18/2007 at 11:43 am #1874529@tyedyeskyguy wrote:
On the other hand, I have no problem using the phone-a-friend technique when necessary.
Well here’s the problem with this….I do not and will not own a cell phone so for me the hint always comes along. Now if I could just get RangerBoy and Marc to give BIGGER hints 😕
05/18/2007 at 1:51 pm #1874530Thanks to the magic of POI files, I have the decoded hints at the ready in my 60CSx in case I need them. Generally, I’ll search the area for 5-10 minutes, and if I’m still coming up empty I’ll go to the hint and pray that it’s actually useful.
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