Forums Geocaching in Wisconsin General The Midnight Ride of Johnny Spirit through Milwaukee

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    Ray

      Johnny Spirit visited many of our (WGA) caches on the night of Nov 20, 2006. After reading his logs, I have come to the conclusion that his finds were virtual finds made from the comfort of his own home. If he has visited any of your caches, check the logs… was he really there?

      I have deleted three of his logs from T&tb caches for failure of validity checks. And I will be checking the others.

      Johnny Spirit – I don’t play that game.

      #1877678

      Does his profile tell you (or us) anything?

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      @marc_54140 wrote:

      Does his profile tell you (or us) anything?

      Yeah, he’s the skinniest superhero I’ve ever seen! 😆

      #1877680

      @Trudy & the beast wrote:

      Johnny Spirit visited many of our (WGA) caches on the night of Nov 20, 2006. After reading his logs, I have come to the conclusion that his finds were virtual finds made from the comfort of his own home. If he has visited any of your caches, check the logs… was he really there?

      I have deleted three of his logs from T&tb caches for failure of validity checks. And I will be checking the others.

      Johnny Spirit – I don’t play that game.

      How can you be sure about that? What are validity checks? Not each log is a rubber stamp. I have found many of my caches that have signed logs but nothing on GC.com. The DNR Land manger that I have worked with on many of my caches looks for them for fun, will sign a log, but never go on line and log them.

      While doing a check on one this week, I discovered a log by both DNR personal and the County Forester who stated they found the cache with out the help of the GPSr. There is no way that the could have stumbled upon the cache. It was off the path an din a a deep stump and covered up.

      #1877681

      This is the opposite – an online log, but nothing in the cache’s physical logbook. I’m assuming what T&tB are calling a vailidity check is going out and looking at the logbook to see if anything is written there or not. If not, then they shouldn’t be getting a smiley.

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      @LightningBugs Mum wrote:

      This is the opposite – an online log, but nothing in the cache’s physical logbook. I’m assuming what T&tB are calling a vailidity check is going out and looking at the logbook to see if anything is written there or not. If not, then they shouldn’t be getting a smiley.

      We only sign the logbook sometimes, and keep track of our finds with our online logs. Most of the time I see what I can swap & if I had some cool experience I write it in my online log.
      Logbooks get wet, lost, stolen, moldy & are not permanent, our online logs are.

      #1877683
      Ray

        If you were to read his on line logs (mostly cut and paste) and compare them with the terrain, etc at the cache; most are ill-fitting. “Dogs barking” at bonita vista??? come on! “rode bike down eastern bank” at Moving Experience would be death defying if not impossible. Covert Cache – an “antique store”

        The 13 Milwaukee area caches are his only logged caches en route from Lansing, MI to Marquette, MI for the Thanksgiving Holiday with family. A later log states he got his GPSr for Christmas. Johnny became a groundspeak member 12/19. a month after he made his trip. It seems strange that anyone would ride a bicycle along the 600 mile route through Chicago and Milwaukee rather than the 400 mile route straight north to the UP. It seems strange that Johnny has not selected caches in any location along his route other than Milwaukee. An educator that can’t spell? More than 50 logged caches BEFORE he signed on to gc.com? One can easily post-date a log, but one cannot get coordinates unless one has an account.

        And, I got a heads-up from an out-of-State cacher, that this guy ain’t straight.

        #1877684

        I finally found this guy on line, and I have to agree with T&B. His logs are strange.

        Normally I would not care one way or another when someone logs one of my caches. I figure they can play the game anyone way they please, since it’s not hurting me.

        Like Hogrod, I generally do not sign the paper log. But since I have cached alot in a group setting, others have been forging it for me!!!

        However, that said, in two cases that I can remember I did delete logs on some of my puzzle caches. These were instances where cut and paste logs did not …..hmmmm…?! Contain enough enthusiasm for the puzzle? I did verify no signature before deleting. And I had tried to contact the cacher, but the e-mail came back stating the address was invalid. So….

        #1877685

        There are a few guys out there like this. One claims to visit caches in an ethereal state while engaging in transcendental meditation. Another I’ve heard of uses a flight simulator program to “fly” himself to remote caches and then claims a virtual find. If you’re finding pleasure in some weird variant of the game, more power to you, but yer gonna get called on it once in a while.

        #1877686

        This kind of thing isn’t limited to geocaching, either. Trekkin’ and I used to do volksmarches when our sons were younger, and Trekkin’ did even more with a fellow walker. They kept encountering this guy who claimed an incredible number of walks, and looking at him, it just didn’t compute.
        They did the math and he’d have to be doing 2-3 of them every single day. There just aren’t that many out there to do, and you can only get one walk credit for any of the seasonals. You can get as many distance stamps as you want for doing them more than once.

        Keeps like interesting!

        #1877687

        @hogrod wrote:

        We only sign the logbook sometimes, and keep track of our finds with our online logs. Most of the time I see what I can swap & if I had some cool experience I write it in my online log.
        Logbooks get wet, lost, stolen, moldy & are not permanent, our online logs are.

        @marc_54140 wrote:

        …Like Hogrod, I generally do not sign the paper log. But since I have cached alot in a group setting, others have been forging it for me!!!

        Have I been away that long? While I’m as trusting as the next guy, isn’t the whole point of requiring every cache contain a logbook just for this very purpose? It verifies you actually were physically at the cache and found it! Don’t go responding with a million examples of various caches that have exceptions, I understand there are “some” caches that don’t have that requirement, but they always have some way to verify your find. Come on people, is it that hard to sign a logbook? I can remember many stories of cachers who found a cache (usually after much effort and great distances) only to realize they had forgotten a pen, and the cache didn’t contain one. I’ve personally seen logbooks with entries written in mud, burnt sticks, and even in one mosquito infested area, written in blood. Signing the logbook is as basic as it gets. Find the cache…sign the log!
        ~CB

        #1877688

        From the Geocaching.com website….

        What are the rules in Geocaching?

        Geocaching is a relatively new phenomenon. Therefore, the rules are very simple:

        1. Take something from the cache

        2. Leave something in the cache

        3. Write about it in the logbook

        Cachew & Wicket – Out on a Hunt –
        ps – we sign!

        #1877689

        OK, I’ll jump on my soap box!

        1, 2, and 3 are currently not listed as ‘rules’. (They have been in the past, but not currently…) Therefore ……

        But if they were, why pick on #3. What about 1 and 2? Hmmm! Can’t do that with a micro………….?!

        After a cache has been muggled, destroyed, soaked, or removed….. where is that precious piece of paper to prove anyone has actually been to the cache?

        Does it REALLY matter? I do not believe so. Cache on!

        #1877690

        And another tidbit that came up in a conversation about bomb squads being called out.

        The comment was made that if the cache had a Geo-caching sticker on the outside ….. that would have solved the problem.

        Hmmm. Terrorist thinks this over, and begins placing geo-caching stickers on ……

        Do you want to be the one to open his presents?

        #1877691

        Oh, and Commander, no, things have not changed. Same old discussions recycling themselves over and over.

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