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    What are your feelings about the proliferation of film cans in uninteresting urban locations, a phenonomen sometimes called “urban spew?”

    #1883524

    I always look at it as one person’s “uninteresting urban locations” as another person’s typical caching area. Many of us prefer to get out in the woods, go for a long hike and find a nice ammo can. For others, this is just not as much fun as finding 10-20 caches in a short afternoon. Many times these type of micros are more accessible to those cachers with limited abilities.

    The future of this activity, as more people are finding geocaching and wanting to put out caches, is that some folks are just going to want to put caches in their hometowns, perhaps in areas in which others may not see the enjoyment factor. Simply, if you don’t like these types of caches, don’t do them. Same goes for people who don’t want to go for a long hike in the buggy woods.

    My feelings? It really depends on what my caching goal is for the day. When I want to really have a great day, usually with great people, I prefer the long hike in the woods with the ammo box. I get the most personal satisfaction out of these kinds of finds. But, when I’m really looking to bump up my find count, I love going to somewhere with a bunch of micros in every single park. These types of caches are also great when I’m planning caching missions with Mom (ldybugldy). Not only is she great at finding micros (me, not so much, and I appreciate the help) but these types of hides are less taxing on her physcially.

    Bec

    #1883525

    As far as Urban Spew is concerned, I definetely have my Opinion. Bring them on! Don’t get me wrong. I am a equal Oppurtunity Cache Hunter! Somedays, I like to go for numbers, somedays I like to go for Quality, Somedays a little of both.

    I feel strongly that there are cachers that are not physically able to do the long walks, cache after cache. as a matter of fact, I have great friends that fall into this situation. Not that they don’t like to find caches way back in the woods in an ammo box, but at times, it is not physically possible.

    Why should we limit there ability to cache, by limiting the number of hides in a urban area. To some people a urban micro may be just that. To some others, it may bring back memories of an event, or special time.

    Some of us go long distances to cache, and all around our great state. Some People stay in the Green Bay’s, the Appleton’s, the West Bends…….

    To each there own.

    As long as the urban caches get properly maintained, and meet all GC.COM Cache Placement Guidlines, I see absolutely no problems, and you can bet I will be looking for them.

    Justin

    #1883526

    What are your feelings about the proliferation of film cans in uninteresting urban locations, a phenomenon sometimes called “urban spew?”

    Again, my opinion will perhaps go across the grain for some cachers, but who really wants to hear the expected political response all the time. I love to go on numbers runs and a big part of those runs is often finding city hides. While most of these are OK, I am disturbed by hides placed where you are forced to seek a cache in full and obvious view of the public. For example I find looking under a large bell at a busy intersection very bothersome. Not only does this type of hide attract attention from law enforcement it is a distraction to both neighbors and drivers. I think that a bit more care needs to be exercised when placing urban hides to avoid raising eyebrows and endangering our sport. Do we really need another bomb scare in the news?

    #1883527

    I feel that “urban spew” caches should be allowed so long as they conform to the geocaching.com guidelines. It is up to those seeking geocaches to determine if they want to hunt a particular type of cache. People should be free to play the game (it is a game! ;)) any way they want.

    Personally, I would rather find a cache involving a longer hike than pulling my vehicle to within 50 feet of one. However, my personal opinions count for squat in this case, and I’m not sure this is something the WGA should concern itself with either. Short of petitioning geocaching.com to tighten its guidelines, organizing a boycott of certain caches found to be without merit, or publishing propaganda pushing for the creation of “quality” caches, there is little the organization could do to have an impact on the placement of “urban spew” caches.

    #1883528

    My opinion is that this topic is beyond the control of the WGA board. Geocaching.com sets the guidelines for what caches can or cannot be published. If people prefer to place these sorts of caches and prefer to find these sorts of caches, so be it.

    I do think, however, that poor quality caches diminish the ability of geocaching to provide direction to interesting places for those visiting. It is a little frustrating to be led to one parking lot after another when you are visiting a new area. That said, I do not see this too often in Wisconsin. Apparently we have better taste then some of those “other” places.

    #1883529

    One person’s urban spew may be the only geocaches another person can get out to find. If you don’t like urban-spew-hides, don’t look for them.

    As Deejay pointed out, where and how geocaches are placed are really beyond the control of the WGA.

    If you see a geocache that you like, shout it to the world, nominate it for Cache Of The Month, recommend it to your friends, talk about it in the forums. If you come across a geocache that is causing problems, give constructive criticism, either in your log or privately to the owner. If it is an overly dangerous or illegal situation, contact your geocaching.com reviewer.

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