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    @Team Hemisphere Dancer wrote:

    How do I know what stances that you actually took in the BOD voting process? I have looked high and low on the WGA site and found no record of these minutes for the general membership to review. As a general member how do I know what you actually did as a voting member other than the resume’ that you put on your Candidates Corner page?

    Keeping a record of all meeting minutes is a duty of the secretary, however, the by laws do not require publication of meeting minutes.

    I would like to see meeting minutes published after each meeting, perhaps as a news item on the main page.

    This would be a good topic of discussion for the next BOD.

    As to the things that we have voted on — the changes and new things (like the committee structure for the picnic and campout, adopt-a-highway, geocoins) we have posted about on the forums.

    As to my opinions on things? Just ask me, I’ll tell you. My ideas and opinions do not always affect the course of the WGA.

    Probably not the answer you’re looking for. I don’t like the idea that people think the BOD is a secret group doing things behind the membership’s back. If that is the case, I really want to change that opinion.

    Bec

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    I do beleive that the voting should be public. Meeting minutes should also be published as soon as possible after the meetings. This will help all members to know what is going on behind the scenes.

    Justin

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    Do you feel that the voting in the BOD should be made public? If yes, what are you going to do to allow the said information get to the general membership?
    As I had already mentioned as an aside in the LOGO question, ( http://wi-geocaching.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=6817 ) I think the minutes not only should be made available, I think they need to be made available. I have often wondered exactly what does go on in the WGA. I sure the board members are working hard on something but what? Did they talk about a certain recommendation I put forth….? I would definitely do my best to get a more public record of the inner workings to the extent that is reasonable.

    #1883615

    Wow, Becky made me go and read the bylaws again! Of all the organizations I have been a part of, this is the first one I have seen where the meeting minutes of the BOD meetings are not made available to the general membership (along with the minutes of any general membership meetings). I went and looked at the bylaws of a couple other organizations I belong to, and the wording was similar to ours. Yet in both those cases, failure to publish the minutes (one uses a newsletter, one a website) would result in a full scale insurrection (and believe me, some of those church ladies are pretty tough!)

    I am guessing that this passage was probably copied from some other organization’s bylaws, without a lot of thought. Can someone who was involved in the original drafting of the bylaws shed some light on this? Was the intent to not require the minutes be published, or was this just not a consideration at the time?

    #1883616

    Rest assured, the intention was to publish minutes from every board meeting.

    Unfortunately, life sometimes has a way of throwing a curve-ball (or two or three or four). Our secretary has had an exceptional year, and I’m sure that the task of publishing the minutes just didn’t have priority over other things in her life.

    As an aside, the officers on the BOD each have a bit more to do than the board members at large (non-officers). The secretary position carries with it the *most* additional work. Future candidates should consider that real work, taking real time, needs to be done for all BOD positions, but epically the secretary position.

    The non-publication of minutes was unintentional, and I wouldn’t expect that trend to continue.

    #1883617

    Yes, minutes of Board meetings should be published in a timely manner.

    However, one of the problems is that the bulk of Board discussions and decisions occur in the private Board forum, not at in-person or virtual meetings. This makes it difficult to put together minutes or a recap of Board actions, because things are so scattered and the discussion jumps around and never really ends. Imagine trying to summarize everything that was posted in the Off-Topic forum in the past month in a concise yet meaningful way. 🙂 It’s a challenge.

    Also, Board member votes on resolutions should be made public. I believe that having an electronic voting system for the Board is critical, because it would ensure all votes get recorded and would make it easy to publish the votes to the membership.

    @Team Deejay wrote:

    I am guessing that this passage was probably copied from some other organization’s bylaws, without a lot of thought. Can someone who was involved in the original drafting of the bylaws shed some light on this? Was the intent to not require the minutes be published, or was this just not a consideration at the time?

    We examined the bylaws of several different organizations before selecting a base set that best matched what we wanted. Each article in the bylaws was discussed and modified as needed. We did not pull some generic bylaws out of a law book or off the Internet and rubber stamp them.

    The intent of the bylaws was never to have the actions of the Board remain secret… it was assumed the secretary would publish the minutes. I remember typing up and posting minutes for Board meetings myself when I was secretary, and I know minutes were also made available by other Boards. For example:

    Minutes from 2005 Board
    Minutes from 2006 Board

    It wouldn’t hurt to modify the bylaws to require that minutes be made available to the membership, just as summaries of the WGA’s finances are made available.

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    AuntieNae
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