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    Trekkin and Birdin
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      We archived one of our caches for the first time today. We’d placed it in a favorite wetlands area for birding and hiking, with the intent that it encouraged young birders. FTF kid got a set of nice binoculars, it was filled with neat things for young naturalists—kids field guides, little magnifying glasses, that kind of thing.

      We’ve had to go back to it so many times, because it gets put back low instead of up in the obvious high spot. Every time, it’s filled with crap, and all the nice stuff is gone. We put in more nice stuff, but not quite as nice, and the result is the same. Gets filled with swamp water cause it’s not sealed properly, bugs invade, yuck!

      We’re sad to have done this, but why keep trying? I feel like we just commited infanticide! 😯

      #1896987

      Maybe try replacing the container with something that takes the guesswork out of closing, like an ammo box or a Lock ‘n’ Lock? I’ve never had a moisture problem when using one of these, because it’s pretty obvious whether you have closed it correctly or not.

      I also put my logbook in a separate zip-lock from the cache swag, so in case somebody puts in something pointy, at least they’re not going to pop a hole in the bag with the log, so it’ll stay dry.

      As for swag quality, there’s not much you can do about that. When I first started, I put nice things in the container, but that was back when people also brought equally quality things to trade with. Nowadays, my cache swag shopping is done at the dollar store where I can still get some nice looking things, but I don’t feel as bad if I check on my cache and it’s full of McToys and golf balls.

      I don’t get too upset about the swag though. If I like the cache’s location, I’ll just concern myself with making sure the log stays dry over fretting about swag quality. Since it all tends to deteriorate anyway, I tend to just clear out the crap rather than try to restock it.

      #1896988

      why keep trying

      You keep trying because without people like you there would be no game of geocaching, just people wandering around in the woods with GPSs looking for…nothing. You keep trying even though you know there are many people who will give back nothing to the game over time by contributing the time and effort to place and maintain even one cache. You keep trying despite the fact that some lazy and careless people will wreck what you have worked hard to create and you will have to fix it. You keep trying because you hope that this group of people is a minority of cachers.

      But mainly you keep trying because you enjoy it and because you know that there’s a large number of people who do appreciate what you do and who will take the time to experience and care for your cache as you have intended.

      Look at it this way. Geocaching is like life. You work hard to produce something nice, and others that do not take part of it away. Sort of like the productivity (income) tax we have, except with geocaching at least you have some control…

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      #1896989

      Hey guys! Just wanted to point out the new serise of caches up around the Eau Claire Lakes/Barnes/ Drummond area. FTB or ” For The Birds”
      15 in all I thnik. Put out by a rookie cacher GramaCindy. But they are all micros. 😯 🙁 There are also about 5 other new caches in that same area also.

      Just thought I’d let you know.

      #1896990

      We, too, have this paternal sentiment about our fifty caches. We feel like hosts to those who visit them and try to make the find a good overall experience. There have been lots of comments in the forums about what makes for a good cache and I won’t go into them here, as there are a lot of perspectives. Cachers are driven by different interests and need to go for them all or look for the ones that appeal to their tastes.

      As cache owners, we thrive on appreciative logs from finders, like gotta run and T&B, and many others, who make it worth while when they find our caches. We try to blend great location or interesting hide (puzzle or not), and something in the way of good swag or trackables to interest all finders. We have tweaked a lot of caches and haven’t yet archived one as we are pretty stubborn when we commit to an idea or location.

      As others mention, there are ways to cope with the obstacles of maintaining a good find, including periodic maintenance and a little TLC if you care enough to bother. We sometimes gnash our teeth at what some people think is suitable to trade or put into a cache. I’d have a trash can full of stuff I’ve taken out of our caches and those of others when I’ve traded or added something to enhance them, if I kept all that junk. Some people have a strange idea of what makes for treasure in a cache. Lots of that stuff should have hit the circular file before they left home.

      Fact is, and we continue to come to terms with this, you can’t control what others do to your “offspring” hides. Most likely, those who fail to maintain or enhance a good cache don’t even read these forum thoughts. Many just don’t give much consideration to it or don’t care anyway.

      We aren’t giving up, thanks to those good people who write great logs and treat caches fairly. For now at least, we will continue to feed off the visits of people like the gotta runs and T&Bs who come to our hides.

      #1896991

      We had our hybrid letterbox stolen over the Labor Day weekend. We feel it was better to archive it because if we replaced it it would proabbly be stolen again. The spot is near a park but in the woods off the beaten path.
      TE

      #1896992

      @cheezehead wrote:

      Hey guys! Just wanted to point out the new serise of caches up around the Eau Claire Lakes/Barnes/ Drummond area. FTB or ” For The Birds”
      15 in all I thnik. Put out by a rookie cacher GramaCindy. But they are all micros. 😯 🙁 There are also about 5 other new caches in that same area also.

      Just thought I’d let you know.

      WOOPS!!!! I thought this was a pm! It was supose to be sent as a PM.

      SORRY! NOt trying to hijack this thread!

      #1896993
      Trekkin and Birdin
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        Dave,

        It was a lock and lock. It was placed up in an obvious spot high in a cottonwood tree, within a wetlands area where it makes no sense to place it low. People have found it floating in the marsh, which admittedly could be the result of a heavy downpour or angry raccoon. Someone found it yesterday shortly before I retrieved it, commenting that the contents were all over the ground, with the cache wide open. They put it back together and though it wasn’t in the high branch, it was hidden. Were we to replace it, we’d somehow tether it to that spot, but we’ll just move on to other things.

        We do the baggies, all that. When a thread earlier talked about archiving only if the cache is problematic…..well, this was one of those caches. There are a couple area cachers who are, well, careless. We have come to caches after them, finding them unhidden, not closed up completey. In a hurry or something. Unless a person hides some of their own, they just don’t realize the long term impact of their actions, or maybe lack thereof.

        #1896994

        @Trekkin’ and Birdin’ wrote:

        There are a couple area cachers who are, well, careless. We have come to caches after them, finding them unhidden, not closed up completey. In a hurry or something. Unless a person hides some of their own, they just don’t realize the long term impact of their actions, or maybe lack thereof.

        Yup. Got some like that here too. Apparently think it’s “Fun4” them to be the last to find on a cache. Always have to go check on your caches after they find them. No suprise, never placed a cache either.

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        #1896995

        If you have problems with a cache moving often…I have had luck coming up with ways in which to “attach” the cache to the location. Would there be a way for that to happen in this case???
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        Just something to think about…of course not all locations will work this way…

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