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01/31/2009 at 12:39 am #1727651
-cheeto- and gotta run’s puzzle creator workshop
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Have you ever wanted to peek into a puzzle cache creators head? (well maybe not certain creators…) Well, this thread will be a chance to get some tips and tricks from puzzle cache creators. You may already know some of these tips but perhaps some of the things we share will help you in building (or solving!) new puzzle caches.
The tips and ideas below come from experience building and solving many different types of puzzle caches. gotta run and I live and geocache in the heart of Wisconsin puzzle cache territory (the Fox Valley area in NE Wisconsin). When opinions are expressed they are ours, not necessarily opinions of the WGA and your opinions may vary.
Feel free to use and abuse any of the tips. It’s okay to “copy”. Really it is! 😀
If you have ideas or tips and would like them included in the workshop, please send them to either gotta run or myself via a personal message or email. Doing so will keep this workshop thread easy to read and follow.
I hope to “package” many of the tips posted here into a presentation or class as well.
Could I also ask that this thread be made “sticky” so it remains at the top of the Puzzle forum please?
Gotta run will be posting the first workshop “lesson” very soon.
01/31/2009 at 1:46 am #1901419On the Left Side of the Road...01/31/2009 at 6:39 pm #1901420Puzzle Creator Workshop – That’s Just Bogus!
Most puzzle caches contain some sort of note at the top of the page resembling: “THE CACHE IS NOT LOCATED AT THE ABOVE LISTED COORDINATES.” (this is the exact message I have borrowed and use on each of mine). Unless you have placed a puzzle cache before, you might not know that picking those “bogus” or “dummy” coordinates as we affectionately call them is not as easy as it first seems but it can also be a lot of fun.
First off, cache placement guidelines require us to choose coordinates that are within 2 miles of the actual cache coordinates.
Secondly, the reviewers will often require that the location of the dummy coordinates be “unsearchable locations”. Handy unsearchable locations might include: Rivers, Lakes, Ponds, Middle of Major Highways, Middle of Garbage Dumps, Waste Treatment Plants, Quarry’s, you get the idea. Many cache owners will joke about the location in the cache listing, like “Don’t go there, unless you want to go for a swim!”
Also, note that dummy puzzle cache coordinates do not have to abide by the .10mi proximity rule. They CAN be within .10 of another physical cache, way point of a multi, other bogus coordinates, etc. In fact, they can and sometimes are placed right on top of other bogus cache locations. This has been referred to as “stacking” in the forums and you can visit that thread if you would like to express your opinions on this practice. I
would stay away from “stacking” on other actual known caches and this may not even be allowed anyway.TIP: You can also think of bogus coordinates as one more way to be creative with the cache listing. Maybe the location can fit into the theme of the puzzle! Maybe the puzzle will involve using the bougs coordinates in some way. Maybe you will have to measure distances based on the bogus coordinates. Maybe the bogus spot will be a starting point or a vantage point for viewing something. Be creative!
Some examples of creatively using bogus coords:
– I’m in a Rut – FINAL (GC1DAJ5) is a final to a “6-pack” like cache final where each of the parts is on a walking trail that surrounds a city park. The coords point directly at the park. The final isn’t in that park but the park is right in the middle of a semi-circle of caches needed to find it.
– Historic Neenah – Old Council Tree (GC1GJ3B) – Bogus coords are actually an approximate location of where the subject tree used to stand based on information from the historical plaque. To find the plaque you use the bogus coords and a measurement and direction from the cache description (thus reversing the information on the plaque).You can also actually post the “real coordinates” instead of bogus coords 😉 This is normally done with caches that have ‘ALR’s’ (or additional logging requirements) like the Delorme Challenge caches and Marc’s Cemetery photo cache series. In fact with ALR’s that do not also contain puzzles, most cacher’s actually like to know where the final is, especially on the “challenge” type caches.
With so many choices, what is a puzzle cache creator to do?
02/03/2009 at 2:03 pm #1901421On the Left Side of the Road...03/24/2009 at 9:36 pm #1901422Puzzle Creating 101: Choosing a Puzzle Type
So you want to create a puzzle—but what type of puzzle should you create? How about this three step process:1. For a start, look at puzzles within the common search radius of most geocachers in your area. What types of puzzles are already out there? Is it worth duplicating one of those types, or should you create something different?
2. What type of puzzles do you enjoy solving? It’s a good idea to start with some of these because, number one, having experience solving a type of puzzle will help you make a better puzzle yourself and, number two, working on something you like also tends to lead to a better quality result.
3. Lastly, what are other types of puzzles out there that might not be in the local caching grounds? Marc has done a fine job of outlining many different types of puzzles in his sticky thread in this same forum, so we won’t go into them in detail here.
On the Left Side of the Road...03/24/2009 at 9:38 pm #1901423On the Left Side of the Road... -
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