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    amita17
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      I didn’t want to steal the other recent thread, but this relates to archived caches. What happens to the cache page when a cache is archived? I remember searching for a couple caches which I never found, and didn’t save the information, but always wondered if I should try again, or at least read the last logs. When I look up caches nearby where I had looked, and search the map, they don’t appear. If I don’t have a cache name, a GC number, or coordinates, is there any way to read about the caches? Just another curiosity, as there are certainly enough available caches to keep me busy.

      #1910237
      sandlanders
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        I do that a lot, too, amita17. The caches pages are still there to look at, but the only way I can find them is if I know who placed the cache (it should appear on their profile under Caches Owned) or if I know of someone who found it (same thing under Caches Found). If you know of a cacher in the area of the archived cache, you can look to see if he/she found it and go from there, but that could be hit or miss. Sometimes you can see archived caches referenced here in Recent Logs, and I sometimes click on those to see why they were archived.

        If you record DNFs on any caches and they are later archived, you can look that up in your own cache logs and a click will let you see the archived cache page. Another reason to log your DNFs. 😉 A note as a cache log will do the same thing, too.

        But as for the other, maybe someone else here can enlighten us.

        #1910238
        ACME_WildCachers
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          I’m not aware of anything other than what sandlanders mentioned. However, I also had some thoughts while reading the other thread that seem to fit better over here.

          I’ve been caching off and on for 3 and a half years, so there have been plenty of caches I intended to go after that wound up archived before I could get to them. I can remember a few times when I have found a cache print out from a while ago, thought to myself, “that sounds like fun!” and then realized it’s actually too late because the cache has been archived.

          I’ve noticed that many times the owner’s archive log just says “thanks for visiting” or “time to go” or something similar. As someone looking forward to completing a find, I’m left wondering what happened. This particularly bugs me when one out of a series goes with no explanation. I always assumed that most owners would want their cache to remain as long as possible, and therefore would only archive it if a problem prevented it from continuing or they were tired of the maintenance involved. I hadn’t really considered archiving as a natural way to allow new caches into an area before reading the other thread. I can definitely understand that reasoning, but I’d also like to know that’s the reason. Is that selfish?

          I guess I just see a little irony in the way most caches are archived. Cache owners generally seem to encourage finders to write at length about their experience with a cache and their journey finding it. Many hiders, on the other hand, end a cache’s life unceremoniously, without returning the favor and sharing any of their own experiences in maintaining the cache or explaining why it’s time to let it go. Many of the posts in the other thread have more explanation about why a cache is gone than was included on most archive logs. It’s true that it’s not as easy to find an archived cache on the website, so one could argue that many people would never see the archive log itself. Then again, I’ve found myself reading through logs on lots of archived caches lately (some of them archived several years ago), and now I know I’m not alone.

          Thoughts?

          My comments are mine alone and may not necessarily reflect an official stance of the WGA Board of Directors.

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          Many hiders, on the other hand, end a cache’s life unceremoniously, without returning the favor and sharing any of their own experiences in maintaining the cache or explaining why it’s time to let it go.

          I often do this on my caches that I archive. Perhaps not a 500 word essay but I do often post information about why it was archived or a tidbit about the history of the cache or the reason it was created in the first place. I also sometimes give warning on upcoming archival, especially if it’s a puzzle.

          Interesting fact you may not have known. Did you know that if you delete a log it’s still written in the groundspeak datbase somewhere? This was confirmed on the groundspeak forums not too long ago. Also, archived logs are visible by certain users of the website. So if you write something you are not so proud of in a log and then think that deleting the log is getting rid of the record, you may want to change the log first and then delete it.. just an FYI. Sort of off topic but good info to know.

          -cheeto-

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          @acwildcachers wrote:

          I guess I just see a little irony in the way most caches are archived. Cache owners generally seem to encourage finders to write at length about their experience with a cache and their journey finding it. Many hiders, on the other hand, end a cache’s life unceremoniously, without returning the favor and sharing any of their own experiences in maintaining the cache or explaining why it’s time to let it go.

          The main reason I would guess is that, unless someone is watching the cache listing or taking the time to poke around through their old “found it” logs, nobody is ever going to see the archive log, or any other log that someone makes on the cache for that matter besides the owner. In contrast, owners as you know get notification of every log on an owned cache.

          So, for the most part, giving a long explanation of why a cache is archived is like speaking to an empty room.

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          #1910241
          ACME_WildCachers
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            @-cheeto- wrote:

            I often do this on my caches that I archive. Perhaps not a 500 word essay but I do often post information about why it was archived or a tidbit about the history of the cache or the reason it was created in the first place. I also sometimes give warning on upcoming archival, especially if it’s a puzzle.

            I looked at a few of your archived caches after reading through your list in the other thread, so I did notice you’ve included more info than most. I’d like to see more owners handle things this way.

            @-cheeto- wrote:

            Interesting fact you may not have known. Did you know that if you delete a log it’s still written in the groundspeak datbase somewhere?

            I didn’t know that, but I’ll keep it in mind if I decide to shoot my mouth off in a log. 🙂

            @gotta run wrote:

            So, for the most part, giving a long explanation of why a cache is archived is like speaking to an empty room.

            I can understand this argument as well, and even acknowledged the fact that many people wouldn’t see the info in my original post. Speaking to an empty room really is fruitless, but I don’t think the analogy is quite right. Leaving more info in an archive log is more akin to speaking into a recorder. You might be in an empty room, but you’ve left something that can be played back if someone happens to enter the room later.

            My comments are mine alone and may not necessarily reflect an official stance of the WGA Board of Directors.

            #1910242

            I also forgot that you can get notifications of archived caches as part of your insta-notifications from groundspeak.

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