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08/07/2009 at 6:32 pm #1728648
What is a comfortable number of caches for you to put out and maintain? Do you put out a lot, just a few, none? Do you place caches and then get help from finders or other cachers to keep them going? Do you find that certain types of caches or placement areas require more of your attention? Do you find that more and more ideas keep popping into your head and you can’t stop yourself from hiding more caches? Just wondering what everyone’s experiences have been.
08/07/2009 at 6:57 pm #1912139I have 81 hides. My wife would say that’s enough. However, I am one those cachers who enjoys putting out caches for others to find. Most of mine are close to home so that I can maintain them easily. I Have had help from cachers such as Rick Blick and Team Black Cat when they noticed a problem with a cache and they fixed for me. Thanks.
I have also learned that a good cache container helps with maintenance problems. I know ammo cans can add a lot of cost especially with a lot of hides but they really do hold up well. The same can be said for Matchstick containers. I started using film canisters and “cheap” tupperware style containers and found out quickly that wouldn’t survive bad winters and animals.
There have been times where I spend a large amount of time preparing a cache or series and there are times when I say, “Look! A boat landing that needs a cache.” I have a lot of my “Anniversary” caches in what local cachers have affectionately named “MATHMAN SWAMP.” There is little muggle traffic there. 😉
I would like to place more caches and will when the inspiration hits me.
08/07/2009 at 8:01 pm #1912140We have 23 active caches and that seems like a pretty comfortable number for us to maintain. We will certainly do more, but don’t have a limit in mind-we’ll know when we get there. However, we definitely feel there is a point a few cachers reach where they are hiding way more caches than they can properly maintain, which definitely detracts from the game. On the other hand, we think the vast majority of folks do a really great job keeping their caches up and running.
08/07/2009 at 9:45 pm #191214148 active caches and ammo cans and other containers remain to be placed. The question is quantity or quality. I know of a bunch of dead ends that I could easily toss a matchstick container in and add another one to the list, or I could really plan something that would be 1)fun, 2) a nice hike, 3) a gorgeous view, 4) a killer puzzle, 5) combination of any or all plus more. Kinda like Mathman, if the idea comes, so be it. I do have at least two ideas but have to figure out where they will go.
I also look at the quality of my past placements and whether or not they are really bringing cachers there for the hunt or just for a cheap smiley.
I have only archived three caches with only one that I consider now that it was a pretty lame one. One had muggle issues and one just needs to be rethunk.Disclaimer : Always answering to a higher power.
08/07/2009 at 10:04 pm #1912142200 is about 100 more than I thought we’d ever have. I agree with all the points about containers mentioned above. Good containers and careful placmements are the key to few maintenance problems.
We still enjoy putting out caches but any new ones we are putting out are done so with the intent to adopt them out to cachers who have few or no hides so that they can experience the joy of ownership…
On the Left Side of the Road...08/07/2009 at 11:06 pm #1912143In a little over two years we have hidden 120 caches. 94 are still active. I’m more addicted to hiding than I am finding. A lot of our early hides were hidden without enough thought going in to them. Our more recent hides have included WSQ’s in old historic cemeteries, series, multis and scenic or interesting places. I always have at least 10 that I am working on in my mind. We carry an assortment of containers with us when we’re out. Watertight containers and regular visits for maintenace are a must for us. We only have one disabled cache right now that I’m working on a new container for right now. The satisfaction from placing hides comes from the many kind logs we receive and the reputation that we have in our area for quality hides.
08/08/2009 at 1:23 am #19121441 just to know what everyone else goes through is MORE than plenty!
08/14/2009 at 9:31 pm #1912145I have 7, but they have all been thought out, and most of them have a hand-made creative conatiner! Yes, quality is better than quantity.
Too many lamo caches around here where a pill bottle is in a cedar tree. ho hum 🙄 😆08/15/2009 at 11:24 pm #1912146Right now I have three caches out – two in Green Bay and one in Lakewood. Right now, that’s about what I can handle. I’m sure I could put more out there, but I really don’t want to place another cache just to put one out. I like to have caches that are difficult to find, but when you find them will leave you saying, “How did I miss that?” I’m hoping to find several more locations like this around Green Bay later this summer or next year.
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08/16/2009 at 12:09 am #1912147Much prefering quality over quantity, we limit the number and the locations to which we place our caches. Right now, I think we have 11 that are still active. Most of them are not found real often as they are not of the quicky smiley kind. Funny, those are the caches that get the longest and nicest logs too. Hmm..wonder if there is a correlation there….
08/16/2009 at 12:45 pm #1912148We agree 100% with AstroD Team. Quality of the cache container, a quality hide and tough enough to make the hunt worthwhile are our guidelines.
We have only 5 out, all of them are tough, some tough enough that I had to banter with Approvers regarding their difficulty. Our caches are designed primarily for adults and not kids, although the terrain is suitable for kids.
Logs for our caches, (like AstroD Team), bear out his comments exactly. Most finders are proud of their accomplishment and say so.
We feel maintaining a cache is very important. Keeping them up to snuff with frequent maintenance checks, (& listing thereof), tells the cacher that it will be there, as promised. We also repair a cache immediately after a note in the log or an E-mail.IMHO, nothing hurts Geocaching more than someone having MANY, MANY caches out there, and seldom maintaining them, even after many DNF’s. Personally, we dislike spending time, gas dollars and preparation searching for a cache that may have been missing for months. We think caches should be “fixed” and back on line ASAP.
Just my $.02
P.S. IMHO, match containers, (etc), hanging 4′ up on the underside of a spruce, or fir tree branch is getting a bit old, too, sorry.
08/16/2009 at 1:43 pm #1912149@seekers8711 wrote:
IMHO, nothing hurts Geocaching more than someone having MANY, MANY caches out there, and seldom maintaining them, even after many DNF’s. Personally, we dislike spending time, gas dollars and preparation searching for a cache that may have been missing for months. We think caches should be “fixed” and back on line ASAP.
I agree–but I’d also add that most of the maintenance problems, at least in this area, come from people who hide a few and then fall off the radar, or school “projects” that get abandoned.
I can think of one notable exception in the area, but otherwise owners with large numbers of caches around here do a good job of staying on top of them, and I hope we fall into that category as well.
Now, how many is “enough?” As many as you can maintain well and reflects to some degree what you have taken from the game. Caching relies on the welfare–of both time and money–of owners to keep the game going. I know, I know–all the good spots are taken, I can’t think of any ideas, I’m busy, etc etc etc. Bottom line, if you have the time and the ability to go out every weekend and find caches, you have the time and ability to place some caches and give something back to the community.
On the Left Side of the Road...08/16/2009 at 4:14 pm #1912150@gotta run wrote:
@seekers8711 wrote:
IMHO, nothing hurts Geocaching more than someone having MANY, MANY caches out there, and seldom maintaining them, even after many DNF’s. Personally, we dislike spending time, gas dollars and preparation searching for a cache that may have been missing for months. We think caches should be “fixed” and back on line ASAP.
I agree–but I’d also add that most of the maintenance problems, at least in this area, come from people who hide a few and then fall off the radar, or school “projects” that get abandoned.
I can think of one notable exception in the area, but otherwise owners with large numbers of caches around here do a good job of staying on top of them, and I hope we fall into that category as well.
Now, how many is “enough?” As many as you can maintain well and reflects to some degree what you have taken from the game. Caching relies on the welfare–of both time and money–of owners to keep the game going. I know, I know–all the good spots are taken, I can’t think of any ideas, I’m busy, etc etc etc. Bottom line, if you have the time and the ability to go out every weekend and find caches, you have the time and ability to place some caches and give something back to the community.
I agree, I think many cachers around here do a good job of maintaining and keeping their caches up and running in a timely manner. I also understand cache hiders have a life outside of caching (or at least should) and sometimes cannot get to their caches right away. Yet, they still get their caches up and running quickly.
Where I see the big problems with those caches that are not maintaned or poorly done, stem from those cachers eager to put a cache out, but have not established any “staying power” in the game. I am very leary of any cacher that has only been in this game for a short time or has very few finds and starts putting out caches. I also do not like cache hiders who expect the caching community to maintain their caches.
08/16/2009 at 11:28 pm #1912151We have hidden over 200, but we have also archived about 35 of our earlier hides. Almost half our hides are WSQ’s, and since it isn’t recommended to put a 3,4,or 5 star hide in a plot, we usually put a “pill bottle in a cedar tree”. We do appreciate other finders helping us with maintenance. We hope to stay in the game on a continuous basis for years to come, but if it changes, we will put caches up for adoption, and archive the rest. No reason someone else can’t put a cache in the same area, so we can add to the ‘smiley’ column! Attrition is part of life and we will go with the flow.
08/17/2009 at 2:00 am #1912152we are up to 125 hides of them 22 have been archived for various reasons, usually muggle factors that were not there when first being placed, we travel and cache in different directions, and usually try to check on our caches in the area we are caching in, our caches in the UP get checked on as often as we can, but some only get 2-3 finds a year. lately we have been updating containers and upgrading the size of some of our hides. most of ours are 1.5/1.5 hides, which is what we also like to find.
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