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  • #1729114

    Captain and Mate
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    After nearly throwing something at the TV yesterday, we decided that we’ve got to find something better to do for those 3 hours on Sunday. Caching comes to mind! Anyway, we remain fans, but just can’t take the frustration 👿

    #1916642

    Lostby7
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    Makes me wonder if we should have let Bart go?

    #1916643

    furfool
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    @lostby7 wrote:

    Makes me wonder if we should have let Bart go?

    I don’t think Bart’s not being here is the problem. Rodgers made some major strides this week in throwing the ball away. At least a couple of times. I think McCarthy’s head is getting closer the chopping block.

    #1916644

    Lostby7
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    @furfool wrote:

    @lostby7 wrote:

    Makes me wonder if we should have let Bart go?

    I don’t think Bart’s not being here is the problem. Rodgers made some major strides this week in throwing the ball away. At least a couple of times. I think McCarthy’s head is getting closer the chopping block.

    Ya the pass defense is a joke…that said Bart always made it easy to get away from the pass rush….the team has some serious work to do to get back on track.

    #1916645

    cheezehead
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    Can’t blame Rodgers. Play calling. The run was working. Keep running!
    And Special teams! UGH!!!!

    #1916646

    Todd300
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    My opinion:

    1) Offensive line is just that – offensive. OL Coach James Campen needs to go. No doubt. I feel that Sitton, Lang and Barbre can be good if they can get the proper coaching. Once Spitz is back in the lineup, hopefully the line will improve.

    2) Special teams are horrible. What the f— was Kuhn thinking? And they need to contain kick returners. If they continue to let kick returners return long kicks, then they might as well just kick the ball out of bounds and let the other team start on their 40.

    3) Rodgers is still a great QB. Just had a bad day. Who doesn’t? Even that former QB of GB now playing for the Queens had his share of bad days when he played for the Pack. Rodgers need to have confidence that his line can protect him. Otherwise, with every hit that he’s taking, he’s becoming more skittish on the field. He showed that Sunday.

    4) And as for Brent…Brad..whatever his name is..that used to play QB for the Packers, he would never have played well behind the Packers OL as he is for the Queens since the Queens OL are much better. In fact, with his age, he would most likely have been injured seriously while Rogers is able to take a licking and keep on ticking due to his young age and conditioning.

    Overall, I don’t think it’s all on McCarthy. But they do need to look at some other personnel and roll some heads. As for Thompson not signing free agents, I agree with the philosophy. I believe the proper way to build a team is through a draft with the occasional free agent such as Brandon Chillar. Last year it was the Packers defense that had their issues, so Raji and Matthews were the first ones drafted and both are starting to look like the real deal. Next year, there is no doubt in my mind that an offensive lineman or two can be taken in the draft.

    As for going the free agency route, if he does sign someone, it will be long after the top free agents sign with other teams and Thompson gets the left overs – decent players who will play for a bargain basement price like Brandon Chillar. There is no way the Packers will overpay like $7 million for an over the hill lineman that will decline in performance in a couple years. I know I wouldn’t.

    So give them another year, especially for the defense to get the players to fit Capers’ scheme, and if they still don’t improve, then yeah, time to take action.

    #1916647

    Captain and Mate
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    @furfool wrote:

    I think McCarthy’s head is getting closer the chopping block.

    One can only hope! We’ve had it with him and his empty promises to address the problems, not to mention his extreme overuse of the word,”FOOTBALL”! We all know the definition of crazy: Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. 😡

    #1916648

    jerrys dad
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    Ok here’s my take on the team:

    1- Sorry Todd but Thompson has to go. Whilke I agree you need to build in the draft, you need to offset emmidiate needs in free agency. Too many teams stay at the top because they are willing to sign quality free agents and while Chillar is good he is not a starter. This team has been the youngest ing the league long enough. Teds ability to judge the talent he is going to drafthas been sub-par at best.

    2- McCarthy has to go also. He has gotten away from the run and the short pass. He is allowing Rodgers to get killed. Where are the screen passes and slants that worked so well in the pass. His camments this past Sunday when he said he worked the team too hard last week in practice, was shocking. He didn’t even have them in pads one day. The teams are unprepared and poorly coached. Adjustments at half are not being made.

    3- Offense- they seem to want to throw the deep balls all the time. The run isn’t working with the poor blocking of the O-line. McCarthy is also asking too much of them by not haveing a short passing game. They do not have the experience to be starting that many young players. They are not of the caliber of Clifton and Tauscher when they came out.

    4- Defense – No pressure on the QB enough said. Raji has not panned out as a first rounder. Where they drafted him he should be a starter and he’s not! (put Kampman back at end where he was more effective!)

    5- Special teams – they are falling apart, I don’t know how to fix this one. They were doing alright at the begining of the season but when Nelson went down so did the unspecial teams. They don’t seem to be trying. Once again coaching

    So what need to happen? A new GM and Head Coach. (There are too many good one available) They need to get help on the O-line hopefully through Free Agency. Get some help on the D-line. The attitude of this team needs to change.

    Enough said!

    #1916649

    ecorangers
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    😆 Here’s a joke that Princess came home with from school today.

    Why did Mike McCarthy go to the bank?

    To get his QUARTERBACK! Tami

    #1916650

    ecorangers
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    😆 Here’s a joke that Princess came home with from school today.

    Why did Mike McCarthy go to the bank?

    To get his QUARTERBACK! Tami

    #1916651

    labrat_wr
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    whoa…. deja vu 😀

    Disclaimer : Always answering to a higher power.

    #1916652

    RSplash40
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    I gave up watching a few years ago I’d get so wound up if they lost, my family didn’t like being around me. So now I wait until its over and watch the highlights off of nfl.com.

    #1916653

    Todd300
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    I’m a die hard packer fan, thick and through. Even if they go back to their losing days of the 70’s and 80’s, I’ll still cheer them on and watch their games.

    I’m just a fan so I can’t really make a true opinion on why the Packers are heading doing the toilet.

    It could be how Thompson manages the team.

    It could be how McCarthy coaches them.

    The players could not be executing the plays as they should.

    And so on. There could be several different factors at play here, so I’m not about to make a judgment as to why the Packers have so many problems.

    I’ll let Mark Murphy make that call.

    But one thing’s for sure. They still are in far better shape than, say, the Raiders or Browns. That’s one way to look at it.

    #1916654

    furfool
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    @todd300 wrote:

    My opinion:
    3)…Rodgers need to have confidence that his line can protect him…

    His line can’t protect him – that’s the problem. If he had a line that could, then he would gain more confidence. He can have all the confidence in the world in his line, but they still won’t be able to protect him.

    As for Thompson, I think he’s the right man for the job. I also think that he has to work on some personal issues. To me he seems to have a big ego that prevents him from taking advice from other coaches, scouts, players, etc. The man has to learn to sit down and listen to everybody involved before making a decision. It just seems to me that when he gets an idea, his mind is already made up.

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