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03/01/2010 at 1:14 pm #1729665
A few weeks ago I hid 6 caches on a bike trail. I submited the spots then disabled them to save them. Now there was a multi posted on the trail. Im sure I am going to have to move at least 2 of them. My question is Can I leave the ones that are close to the second stage and the final?
One is about 75 feet and the other is 100. From what I remember we have to stay away from the posted first stage, Is that correct?
Thanks03/01/2010 at 1:50 pm #1923483You have to be .1 miles away from any physical stage of a different multi-cache, not just the first stage, if that’s what you’re asking.
I’m curious why your submissions didn’t “save” the spots on the trail, unless the multi-cache itself was submitted before you had worked up your caches.
On the Left Side of the Road...03/02/2010 at 1:31 am #1923484My understanding (from experience) is that there is no “saving” of WP’s when your cache is submitted. If you submit it and put things on hold for any reason, and someone else’s submits one for publishing, you lose your spot.
03/02/2010 at 1:45 am #1923485@TyeDyeSkyGuy wrote:
My understanding (from experience) is that there is no “saving” of WP’s when your cache is submitted. If you submit it and put things on hold for any reason, and someone else’s submits one for publishing, you lose your spot.
Well that does not sound right. I had work to do on the cach pages. They just dont happen over night. Take for instance the State series. I know i would be very upset after doing all the work to put the series together and then have the kabash put to it just because someone posted before me. I thought that was the reason to save spots. Im working on a 56 cache hide now and i will not run out, get the cords then publish one at a time. What a waste of time.
03/02/2010 at 2:04 am #1923486@rcflyer2242 wrote:
@TyeDyeSkyGuy wrote:
My understanding (from experience) is that there is no “saving” of WP’s when your cache is submitted. If you submit it and put things on hold for any reason, and someone else’s submits one for publishing, you lose your spot.
Well that does not sound right. I had work to do on the cach pages. They just dont happen over night. Take for instance the State series. I know i would be very upset after doing all the work to put the series together and then have the kabash put to it just because someone posted before me. I thought that was the reason to save spots. Im working on a 56 cache hide now and i will not run out, get the cords then publish one at a time. What a waste of time.
You can always contact our reviewers and let them know you want a series published together and have them review them prior to publish. They might just help you out there. Ask nicely and bribe often!
As for whether older non-enabled, pre-published cache pages take precedence over a newer placed cache, I would never assume anything.
03/02/2010 at 2:13 am #1923487@TyeDyeSkyGuy wrote:
My understanding (from experience) is that there is no “saving” of WP’s when your cache is submitted. If you submit it and put things on hold for any reason, and someone else’s submits one for publishing, you lose your spot.
Hmmm…that’s different from what I was told by someone in an official capacity in the past…but I can’t deny your experience.
Can we get an official reviewer comment (to both issues)?
EDIT: Ok, I now remember submitting a cache several years ago and having it kicked back because someone else had a cache already submitted in the .1 mile area, which had some problems with it that were waiting to be resolved, so it was unpublished at the time.
On the Left Side of the Road...03/02/2010 at 4:32 am #1923488Just to calm things down….the other multi cache was submitted prior to rcflyer’s caches. The publication was delayed several weeks while the owner obtained a permit. When we have multiple unpublished caches in the system, the lowest number takes priority. Now, if you enter a listing and don’t do anything with it for an extended period, it might be deleted during database cleanup, but that was not the case here.
To be honest, we discourage the practice of “saving spots”. It is difficult enough for hiders to avoid hidden multi and mystery cache waypoints. It is impossible for people to avoid unpublished caches. That said, you can submit a page and then take time to plan your caches, execute timed releases or get permission for a placement. Just don’t make it your life’s work to get a permit filed.
03/02/2010 at 12:39 pm #1923489Thanks for the clarification. My comment about “saving” is in the context of actively working on a cache, not attempting to block a bunch of interesting spots.
I’ve also had very good results with asking the reviewers if certain placements were OK from a proximity standpoint before getting too far along in the creation process.
On the Left Side of the Road...03/02/2010 at 4:21 pm #1923490@-cheeto- wrote:
@rcflyer2242 wrote:
@TyeDyeSkyGuy wrote:
My understanding (from experience) is that there is no “saving” of WP’s when your cache is submitted. If you submit it and put things on hold for any reason, and someone else’s submits one for publishing, you lose your spot.
Well that does not sound right. I had work to do on the cach pages. They just dont happen over night. Take for instance the State series. I know i would be very upset after doing all the work to put the series together and then have the kabash put to it just because someone posted before me. I thought that was the reason to save spots. Im working on a 56 cache hide now and i will not run out, get the cords then publish one at a time. What a waste of time.
You can always contact our reviewers and let them know you want a series published together and have them review them prior to publish. They might just help you out there. Ask nicely and bribe often!
As for whether older non-enabled, pre-published cache pages take precedence over a newer placed cache, I would never assume anything.
Exactly. It’s been my experience that the reviewers will help if/when they can, but they aren’t in the practice of holding spots indefinitly.
03/03/2010 at 12:06 am #1923491Valid point, I asked Wis Kid about a cache I wanted to do, not only did he offer good advice he asked a few questions as to what I was trying to do and actually made good suggestions for the cache considering additional logging requirements
03/03/2010 at 4:58 am #1923492Thanks teem Deejay I get how it works now. I will just move 3 caches a little further down the trail.
Now when it comes to my 56 cache series it sounds like what your saying is I should get all the spots, then submit the caches and then after they are published, disable them?
Can anybody tell me how the battleship series was worked out? Or the states series? All help will be appreciated. Thanks03/03/2010 at 5:03 pm #1923493@kansas64 wrote:
Valid point, I asked Wis Kid about a cache I wanted to do, not only did he offer good advice he asked a few questions as to what I was trying to do and actually made good suggestions for the cache considering additional logging requirements
They are there to help, and do whenever they can. As long as everyone understands there are limitations to what they are able to do and can do.
03/03/2010 at 5:53 pm #1923494@rcflyer2242 wrote:
Thanks teem Deejay I get how it works now. I will just move 3 caches a little further down the trail.
Now when it comes to my 56 cache series it sounds like what your saying is I should get all the spots, then submit the caches and then after they are published, disable them?
Can anybody tell me how the battleship series was worked out? Or the states series? All help will be appreciated. ThanksThe battleship series was submitted over time with instruction to publish on a specific date. The state series was mostly published as they were placed.
Normally if you want a big bang publish, you would create them without activating the caches, then ask for an offline review. You absolutely need to do this if you have a mystery final, as that needs to be reviewed before the series is published.
03/03/2010 at 11:31 pm #1923495@TyeDyeSkyGuy wrote:
@kansas64 wrote:
Valid point, I asked Wis Kid about a cache I wanted to do, not only did he offer good advice he asked a few questions as to what I was trying to do and actually made good suggestions for the cache considering additional logging requirements
They are there to help, and do whenever they can. As long as everyone understands there are limitations to what they are able to do and can do.
For being volunteers, its amazing just how accomodating the reviewers are. It amazes me that there isnt a higher rate of turnover in that position.
03/04/2010 at 1:07 am #1923496Becky and I are blessed with infinite patience and unlimited tolerance for bad grammar and punctuation.
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