Unless the poster deletes the NM log, it will stay. I’m not sure if you can delete it yourself. But you did right to log a “performed maintenance”, because now it won’t draw the attention of a reviewer and if it does, they’ll see you did maintenance. The two logs cancel each other out. Don’t worry about it showing up. It’s not a demerit.

And you did right to inform the poster (nicely) of the difference between a DNF and the NM. The former is the way to go unless there is definitive evidence, like a chewed up container or a totally soaked log, etc., that some work needs to be done. If a cacher doesn’t want to log a DNF, a note to the CO is as acceptable to let the owner know in detail what or what wasn’t found.

Gee, rtrezrsnhvn… If you’re giving good advice to newbies, you’re not newbies yourselves anymore! 😀

Just today… we (professor & earth angel) had to visit one of our caches because Wis Kid disabled it after 11 logged no finds and one needs maintenance log. Turns out the cache was still there!!!!!! So I added an extra hint to the hint and left a “bigger” cache container and put the original in it. Enjoy! EA

Logging owner maintenance is only way to remove the “red cross” icon. Deleting the NM log simply deletes the log and not the attribute.

This is an ongoing problem, usually from newer cachers who don’t understand the implications of these logs and don’t seem to take the time to read the warning text that pops up.

We have a cache that’s somewhat tough to find and tends to “migrate” a bit depeding upon where finders replace it. (I know, put caches back where you found them, but that’s another story…) Anyway, it’s gotten 3 NM or SBA logs since May, including by previous finders who felt compelled to take a return visit out there to look for it and couldn’t find it where they found it. Every time we’ve gone out and checked on it, it’s been there.

Here’s one from my watchlist that just happened to show up in my inbox: GC19BD4 . No recent DNFs on this one (in fact, the person logging the NM didn’t even post a DNF, but that’s another story too…). Is it gone? Who knows, but I do recall it being a tricky find particularly if you hadn’t seen the style before, so I wouldn’t be suprised if it’s there.

So, this happens all the time, unfortunately. The unfortunate part is that it raises a flag to the reviewers which adds to their work, not to mention adds a cache attribute. Not much you can do about it except to respond to it as an owner via an owner maintenance log, and try to do some education on the subject. So don’t take it personally.