I adopted/own one (GC10P00) that moves. That is part of the fun of this cache, but it specifically notes the movement and the chance that it has moved from the hiding spot.

So, the owner moved the cached to see who would replace it, then got mad when someone did?

Sounds to me like the CO needs to grow out of his diapers first. If he is sick of people trying to help a CO out then why is he still hiding them, not that he has a ton of them anyways. BTW what other names is he going by?

First off the cache you are whinning about is my daughters G force1 and it was her desision to do this experment and it does prove that people just give away the location of hard caches because if they would have found it their name would be on the log This is intended to be a difficult cache and she wishes to keep it that way

futher more G force1 is my youngest daughter,passmhi is my wife,and agent K1 is my oldest daughter and they all like to cache if you don`t like our caches don`t look for them or quit whinning and I stand by her choice for this experment because I`ve done it too because of all the phone a freind and that freind just tell you where the cache is at if you post DNF or send me an email I will be happy to give you a clue but Im not going to just tell you where its at if you can`t find the difficult one don`t even look if you can`t handle the CHALLENGE

@vtwinspin wrote:

it does prove that people just give away the location of hard caches because if they would have found it their name would be on the log

Dude your full of – – – -. Think about what you wrote. Your excuse me her little game did not work. If it had then the names would be on the log like you state but they were not so nobody gave anything away. If a PAF helped another cacher find it big deal. You have no idea what was said over the phone. Quit playing games with cachers by moving it after it has been found. Dang its only a game so hide your cache and let it be, all people get is a smile so big deal.

My other statement on the whole situation is that the way others play the game may not be exactly the way you play the game.

People use PAF’s, people share puzzle finals, people post spoiler photos, etc. It happens and there’s nothing you can do about it.

It’s a hard pill to swallow at times, but your actions of moving the cache don’t speak any better than those that might use a PAF. Just accept it because it’s going to happen.

I had a deleted find on one of the caches in question. I went with a group of cachers during our lunch break at a local event. No one at the event had previously found the cache. No one told us where it was. No one phoned a friend. We spent a fair amount of time looking high, low and everywhere in between. Finally one person had an aha moment and found a container. We pried it out but no log to be found. We thought it odd and debated on whether it was a decoy. No mention is made of a decoy in the cache description. We went inside the local establishment and talked to the owner. He had seen us searching and knew about caching. We asked him if he was aware of the cache and we told him what we had found. He verified that we were right. That said, we replaced the missing log and went on our way. Let’s see…what did we get for our “cheating” ways. A smiley, a deleted log, but most of all a good time with fellow cachers and lots of laughs. There’s no prize for the person that hides the most, finds the most, phones a friend, doesn’t phone a friend, finds the most difficult, etc. Everyone plays their own game and challenges themselves in whatever way is suitable to them. I guess I could “whine” on longer but the best solution is to just use discretion when deciding what caches to search for.