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    redwingrr
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    Hi,
    I was hoping someone might be able to identify this snake for me. We saw it yesterday in Europe Bay Woods Natural Area in Door Co. Prettiest snake I ever saw. It was only about 9″ long, a beautiful bright rust color, but with a dark brown head.
    Any help appreciated. I looked through the DNR’s pics of the 22 species in WI and none of them seemed to match.
    Thanks

    #1963863

    WStemple
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    Even though it does not look like the picture on the DNR PDF, it does sound like a Brown Snake. Here is a description that I found.

    A very small tan snake with two parallel rows of tiny dark spots down the back; found most commonly in southern three-quarters of Wisconsin, in dense ground vegetation and debris.

    #1963864

    redwingrr
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    Thanks for the reply. Yes, that sounds like a possibility. Here are a couple close-ups. The rust color was so rich, it looked like velvet. There was a lot of decaying wood in the area (Cedar, I’d guess) and this snake matched it perfectly.

    #1963865

    Team Black-Cat
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    Certainly looks like this guy…
    http://www.dekaysbrownsnake.com/

    #1963866

    WStemple
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    @Team Black-Cat wrote:

    Certainly looks like this guy…
    http://www.dekaysbrownsnake.com/

    Yes it does, except for the difference in the head. Markings are also not as defined. I wonder if this is a young one.

    #1963867

    WStemple
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    Just found these pictures of some young ones. The head is a different color on them.

    #1963868

    huffinpuffin2
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    #1963869

    lone_gunman
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    I think I’m going to side with the puffins. That’s what I thought when I saw the first picture.

    #1963870

    Barry Butrymowicz
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    When I was a kid we called them firebellies, but I would agree with puffins too, its a red belly

    #1963871

    redwingrr
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    Thank you! Yes, the 2nd pic of the Northern Red-bellied that huffinpuffin sent looks just like what we saw. I believe that’s it. Now I wish we’d gotten a look at the underside, though I wouldn’t have wanted to disturb the little guy.
    Thanks all!

    #1963872

    BeccaDay
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    Snakes are so cool! 🙂

    Not all who wander are lost. -J.R.R. Tolkien

    #1963873

    Team Black-Cat
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    Northern Brown and Red-bellied snakes are closely related. Same genus.
    Storeria dekayi – Brown Snake
    Storeria occipitomaculata – Red-bellied Snake

    Looking around, there seems to be a lot of mis-identified picures of both on the Internet.

    #1963874

    redwingrr
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    Interesting. No way to know for sure.
    For those who like snakes, here’s a neat little video. This looks like the snake I saw, especially if you watch to the end.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJq6WYAbBAw

    #1963875

    Team Black-Cat
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    At 2:10 in, it’s obvious which one it is not.

    #1963876

    TeamNutTree
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    Here is my snake from August 1, at Franzoi Park in the Town of Neenah:

    Richard Staffen from the DNR originally thought it was a Redbelly Snake or a Brown Snake. After more research he concluded it was a Northern Redbelly Snake. I have seen one once before but that one was almost black.

    Here is my favorite snake I saw this year, a Western Fox Snake at Buboltz Nature Preserve on September 12.

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