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Noonan 12 years, 1 month ago.
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10. Lonely cache reports must be submitted within 7 days of the find/attempt/adoption to eligible to score points. Reports submitted after this time period may be approved but will count for no (0) points.
I’m sure these rules have been implemented for some reason or another with reasoning involved to manage and clarify how the game is played.
In regards to #10, while looking at the recently submitted reports there are several that have a greater than 7 day period between action date and submit date with points approved. While submitting reports out of the period is totally within this rule, expecting and or receiving credit is not.
I would assume this must be an oversight or the report reviewers, but I’m not sure? 😕
I would like some clarification as to how or if this rule is being applied or if I’m just not interpreting it properly. If it’s no longer being applied I may consider changing the way I submit my reports in the future.
I believe the intention was to allow those reviewing these to easily find the logs on the cache page for verification. It also prevents “sandbagging” where somebody enters a bunch of reports near the very end of the month and gets a whole lot of points.
Considering its all done by volunteers, it is what it is. There may also be oversights in duplicate logs being awarded points. As a past admin of this, it’s tough to catch everything and I always erred on the side of awarding points unless there was an obvious mistake by the cacher (I.e. logging a found for a DNF or logging the wrong cache)
While the game has evolved since it first began, many of the rules have not. the current rule revision occurred in Nov 2010 and yes, perhaps we need to look at these rules again and make some changes. With the cut over to the new website, the game admins no longer have the ability to edit the points for the submission if approved as mentioned in Rule #10. The early years of the game seemed to hold a slightly different value in that the monthly point leader/s received a geocoin or other prize often donated by another player. In those days, Rule #10 helped in keeping those “sandbaggers” from waiting until the last moment to spring hundreds of points on the other players. That practice has declined with the withdrawl of offering monthly prizes.
Hopefully that assists in explaining a little on why Rule #10 is not enforced as strictly as it was in the past. All I ask personally is that month end reports be submitted in a timely manner.
I would also envoke rule #11 a,b and e 🙂
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@f1rebirds wrote:
. . . If it’s no longer being applied I may consider changing the way I submit my reports in the future.
Hmmmm. How and why?
So, if someone found a Lonely Cache on, say, 12/19/12, and then submitted for points on, say, 12/27/12, that would be 8 days and worth 0 points if Rule 10 were strictly enforced? That’s one approach, and easy on the brain and the LCG Police.Don’t know the History of the Rule, but always had the sense some of the rules came about in the early ‘Wild West’ days of the game, to help reign in excessive Strategic Sandbagging; or perhaps it was simply to place a reasonable time-frame on submissions, or a balance between the two.
Without quoting the game’s mission, pretty certain it is to keep the State’s caching landscape clean and vibrant, by encouraging participants through fun and rewarding adventures. A Win-Win scenario, that works really well, in our opinion. Perhaps the Game has morphed onto a healthy path, accepting some flexibility in the Rules, and treating them more as guidelines subject to reasonable gamesmanship.I thought it was The Lonely Cache “Game”.
Not the Lonely Cache “Life and Death Situation”.@Mister Greenthumb wrote:
I thought it was The Lonely Cache “Game”.
Not the Lonely Cache “Life and Death Situation”.😆
This forum is always open for discussion of the rules. There has been a call for discussion of the rules at every LCG year end event that I’ve attended, but usually nothing is brought up.
I have to agree that if a rule isn’t being enforced, then it needs to be modified. I have no idea if this is the case or not.
The WGA has, in my opinion, the best Lonely Cache Game in the country. We have more participants, more reports on lonely caches and better reporting and score keeping. Nobody else even comes close. We may need to make a tweak here and there to keep it that way.
Feel free to start a new thread to discuss changes. And be sure to attend the LCG event. It’s usually quicker and easier to discuss things in the ‘real world’.Who the heck has time to audit other players’ LCG reports or strategize a bunch of sandbagging?
I might suggest volunteer work if you have a lot of idle time on your hands. Maybe a scout group, church, or food pantry?
On the Left Side of the Road...Geocaching is a hobby. Not a game.
But many people treat it like a game.
Leave it be, Mike, and let them play the “game” however they want. It’s all about numbers to them.
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These are great discussion points and I hope everyone will be interested in discussing rule these valid points at the end of the LCG event on Groundhog’s Day.
With my co-presenters, we were just 2 days ago discussing the topic of monthly winners and how that would fit into the presentation.
To all the BOD members, I appreciate all the volunteer work that goes into the site to keep things running smoothly. Sometimes I forget that this is just a “game” which is just a way to spend time being social and being in nature and there are more important real things that command our attention.
Please, if you cannot make the LCG Event, forward your concerns/questions/complements to the BOD members or as a last resort, you can send them to me, Janks15 or bif-n-sons and we’ll make sure we add them to the discussion.
Following the signals from space.
I’m afraid I haven’t racked up any LCG points in a little while, this whole pneumonia thing really has slowed me down. But I think we have a great game going and I look forward to the event. I think the 10 day thing could be a bit tricky, what if someone was on a week-long trip somewhere that they couldn’t get to internet access and cached so much and took so many pictures (is this anyone else besides me and Hack1of2?) that it takes them a few days to log their finds and catch up. But on the other hand, I can see how you wouldn’t want it to go too far out either. Maybe 2-3 weeks instead?
Not all who wander are lost. -J.R.R. Tolkien
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