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06/13/2016 at 5:56 pm #2050248
Follows is an email we just sent to a new cacher, after several messages back and forth showed a lack of info on how to be a good Geocacher. This follows the theft of an XL ammo can from our St. M-M cache in Waupaca that has been in place since 2007. I sure wish before free phone apps would activate the downloader would have to complete a tutorial and pass a test!
“Hi, again –It does not sound like the red car you found at our St. M-M cache is anything valuable, nor is it one of the 2 missing Travel Bugs. I am not sure what the trackball is that you offered to return.We have disabled the cache and removed the plastic bag. I’ve started asking around the Parish, but do not expect to learn anything further. Apparently somebody needed a big ammo can so they just stole it and left the contents.You ask for us to send you a geo-coin. Perhaps there is some confusion here. GeoCoins are occasionally found in a cache. Cachers usually do not have them to hand out. GeoCoins belong to somebody. They are registered on gc.com just like a Travel Bug. They have a tracking number, are meant to be logged as found, then dropped into another cache, and logged as placed there. If you are collecting and hanging on to actual numbered GeoCoins (you said you have 50-some), that is not the right thing to do.On the other hand, pathtags are another story. Many cachers have these made up and leave them or hand them out. Most may be collected and kept. Those we have seen are about the size of a dime, actual GeoCoins are usually larger and may be shapes other than round.The best process is, if it has a tracking number on it, look it up and contact the owner. Ask if it is able to be kept, or does it need to continue to travel.I have the logbook from St. M-M, and just looked at the one in our Computer Cache. I did not find a written log from you in either. Per GeoCaching corporate guidelines, a cache owner may delete online logs if there is no signature on the logbook in the cache. You need to physically sign the log at the cache. The online log is optional.You might want to get a free membership in the state caching organization. http://www.wi-geocaching.com . Nice friendly group, and a lot of info that can help with caches and caching.There is lots of stuff to do properly to be a good geocacher! If you have any questions about anything I have written, please ask. We will be happy to help you along.cYa, Grandpa”06/13/2016 at 8:00 pm #2050252Oh, we feel your pain! I agree, the free apps seem to have caused this kind of thing to proliferate. We are now in the season of writing our “nice” emails to people who just started, visited a park and realized after the fact (probably) that we have a virtual or EarthCache there. Our standard practice is to write after a couple days with no response, a nice email with information about how these work and to be sure to ask if we can help. Nine times out of ten, we end up hearing nothing and deleting after about a week. Honestly, all we want is for folks to at least make an attempt at these. Yes, we’re retired teachers, but easy graders! [;)]
We’ve been doing a lot less geocaching and more of the things we used to do, as well as new interests. Some of that is just the natural progression in the hobby, but a fair amount of it is due to this sort of thing. We just lost another ammo can recently. Silver with a handpainted design on it and of course, clearly marked as to what it is. We have a bunch more to put out there, but are really rethinking those. Those thefts aren’t always cachers, but it still stings.
I don’t know what the answer is. Geocaching.com is a business and offering free apps that might lead to purchases of memberships and products is in their best interest, but it gets old, doesn’t it?
06/14/2016 at 5:10 am #2050254What a nicely worded email. Good job and I too know the pain of a missing ammo can. That was a good cache we did a few years back.
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06/15/2016 at 9:54 pm #2050312You had a nice way of giving information without a nasty tone, despite the sting of the loss of the ammo can. Well done. I agree, I wish that geocaching HQ would give a little more information before people could find geocaches.
Not all who wander are lost. -J.R.R. Tolkien
06/18/2016 at 11:01 pm #2050382Unfortunately, we have the same thing out here, with the added sting that we have at least one reviewer that routinely archives caches that Wisconsin would consider lonely, simply because they haven’t been found in years. I’m sure there are many ammo cans in the woods here that are just fine, only no one is going to be looking for them anymore.
Nicely worded letter, I hope I have that much restraint when this happens to me.
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06/21/2016 at 12:24 pm #2050420I agree with Trekkin, the hobby has made way too many changes which is helping beginners show an interest and before they can understand jump in and cause havoc. I have gone back away from the phone caching and our numbers have begun to decline with the type of caches hidden. It seems a lot of people are lacking creativity in general. Logs like “tftc” and seeing the same music groups used as the basis of a cache hide get old real quick. We do occasionally geocache still but other hobbies are taking over. Maybe one day we will become interested in running numbers again, but it isn’t looking positive.
06/21/2016 at 12:25 pm #2050421If you post maintenance visits to your caches that haven’t been found in a while shows the reviewer you do want to keep your cache and haven’t abandoned it.
06/22/2016 at 4:17 pm #2050432So last week we get a message, needs to be archived, from someone in a summer school class who has never found a cache, supposedly a member of the class decided to toss it in the tall grass, so far we have lost a fish, a cow, and a saw on this trail, all one of a kind caches, have turned a few of the one of a kinds to Premium only, agree there needs to be more info. out there for the new cachers. Not disappointed enough to quit though, way too many positives to the game.
06/22/2016 at 6:25 pm #2050435So often the well meaning school groups bring issues with their visits. That stinks WPM caches are unique.
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06/22/2016 at 6:47 pm #2050436Sorry Mel. I will return the fish and the cow next week, but I’m not done using the saw yet.
06/23/2016 at 7:57 am #2050441Yea, a few years ago I taught a geocaching class at the YMCA and I lectured and lectured about geocaching etiquette. We found a cache of mine on the property together and I really had high hopes that all would be well. Nope, one of the kids took it a few days later. So it’s not just that people don’t know better, sometimes if there isn’t an interest to stay involved with the activity, if it’s just something fun they’re trying once, there just isn’t the motivation for longevity.
Not all who wander are lost. -J.R.R. Tolkien
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