2015 Lonely Cache Game Suggestions

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  • #2036074

    Team Northwoods
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    Let’s have some.

    ***Opinions expressed are mine alone and will change based upon new information. ***

    #2036075

    Team Northwoods
    Participant


    I have some suggestions to help promote the LCG but I definitely would stay away from breaking the game up in quadrants. I am afraid it would lessen competition and make too many winners. Now that said a modified quadrant might work for quarterly winners or something but not monthly.

    I would prefer to see a banner or graphic on the web page for the LCG that every year we have an event that gives out prizes to the top ten ranking that show up to the event. I would even say show up that way 11, 12 and 17 will show up because 3, 5-8, and 10 may not.

    Every month on Facebook make a post ranking the top 3 creating completion and pats on the back. Bring more presence to the LCG.

    I would do those things first before breaking up the state in quadrants for the LCG. Baby steps. A few modifications could go a long way and then move on from there. Too much modification would completely change the game altogether and I don’t think it needs a complete over haul as of yet.

    ***Opinions expressed are mine alone and will change based upon new information. ***

    #2036094

    admin
    Keymaster


    Thanks for starting this thread.

    Here are some of the suggestions brought up at the LCG event on Saturday.

    Dividing the state into “zones” similar to the Cache of the Month zones.

    Increasing the number of caches from appx. 500 to ??.

    “Badges” for winners’ profiles similar to the WGASPS badges.

    A “Most Wanted” list. This would be the 10 longest unfound caches on the list. X extra points for finding (or DNFing).

    Bonus points for distance from home cords.

    All are open for discussion. So…. discuss. 🙂

    #2036096

    Team Northwoods
    Participant


    Right off the bat. The Badges and the Most Wanted List with a 5 or 10 point bonus that most likely would be tripled would be good due to the last found log. Sounds like good ideas. Getting into points is getting a little bit to far ahead though. I think an additional amount of caches added list to the 50 or 100 category might not be bad either?

    ***Opinions expressed are mine alone and will change based upon new information. ***

    #2036098

    BeccaDay
    Participant


    I like the badges idea.  It doesn’t cost anything except the time of the designer but it’s a nice way to display your commitment to the project.

    “Dividing the state into “zones” similar to the Cache of the Month zones.” – It was also suggested that you get additional points for caches being — miles from home.  I like this idea possibly better than the quadrant idea.  It would require players to put in their home town on the website, but if they aren’t comfortable with that they just wouldn’t get the extra points.  It may encourage people to reach a little farther for the lonelies.

    I also like the “10 most wanted” list.  An additional number of points if you visited the loneliest of lonelies?  Or maybe a separate stat on the leader board?

    Not all who wander are lost. -J.R.R. Tolkien

    #2036100

    admin
    Keymaster


    I forgot about the distance from home one. Added to my previous post… Thanks Becca.

    #2036102

    labrat_wr
    Participant


    question: if there are bonus points for distance from home, how can we qualify the points? My focus here is that if someone makes a long distance run, do they get the same number of bonus points per cache they found or would it be points they add to one of the caches in the group they did at a certain distance from home.  Maybe an example would make it clearer.

    GC29H25 Trappers cabin series : eight caches all on the list along the same trail with about a total of four miles hiking out and back.  Since the cacher is there already for even one of the caches, should they get bonus for each one?  It may depend on what value of points are decided upon for this attribute but it could be an easy way for someone to pad their scores.  I am not against the idea but just want to have a fair way of assigning points.  Also, is this something that the software can be set to do as it would potentially vary for each cacher.

     

    regarding zones, there will always be areas that cycle through their long not found caches. just the nature of the beast.  It could bring more into the game, or it could distract and turn people off.  Some can take the time to travel across the state and some cannot. Zones could level the field or could limit the number of caches available for LCG depending on if the number of caches statewide for the game is increased.

    Keep thinking of ways we can spruce up the game.  it has been out there for many years now and I believe the number of participants has been shrinking though there are still some gung-ho individuals out there having a great time.  I used to be one of them.

     

    Disclaimer : Always answering to a higher power.

    #2036106

    admin
    Keymaster


    Wait… Why is this in BOD forum? Moving to the LCG forum so people can see it…

    #2036108

    Team Black-Cat
    Participant


    I’m not sure if I understand how having zones would turn anyone off. There would still be an overall winner, so nothing changes there… Players wouldn’t have to do anything extra. The software would do all the work. Worst case is that someone wins that wouldn’t normally. Please point out the downsides.

    As for the distance from home option, players would need to put their location in their profile (as most active members already have). It’s easy for the software to figure out distance between two points. If we decide to do it this way, I would suggest something like 0-50 miles=0 bonus points, 51-100=1 bonus point, etc. If someone goes on a roadtrip and finds 5 lonelys 150 miles from home, they would get 2 bonus points for each. I’m not sure if this would encourage more lonely finds or just more traveling. If the points are adjusted higher, it might get some folks to wander a little farther…

    #2036111

    labrat_wr
    Participant


    I was thinking outloud but if the number of available lonely caches in one zone was dwarfed by the number of lonely caches in another zone (if the number of caches per zone were not equalized somehow), it may discourage some folks – say zone A has a bunch of traditionals along a seldom used trail vs Zone B with a majority of puzzles.  of course, nobody is going to seek them all. just looking for Pro/Con to the discussion points.  I am all for changing it up a bit.

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    #2036117

    Team Black-Cat
    Participant


    Changes to the LCG should and always have been driven by the members that play the game. While I agree that some of the things discussed and decided by the BOD don’t require input form the membership (that’s why we have a BOD), I don’t think that this isn’t one of those things.

    If the forum goes crazy on one of the ideas, wouldn’t it be negligent of the BOD not to implement that idea it it’s reasonable?

    #2036118

    Team Northwoods
    Participant


    Quite honestly now that I know there is more to this game then just a stat for myself. I have played this game since I first heard about it but thought it was just for myself as a stat and didn’t know about an event for it. Now I know that it adds an extra incentive. I have already been eyeing up that Trapper Series for this spring and I know where a FTF cache is at. Thanks for pointing that out labrat. I was talking to scott543 at the event out that lonely little run. If someone like me learns more about the game and goes up north to grab some of these old caches it will move the game pieces around quite a bit I would think. SO that is why I am leaning towards promotion.

    If you look at my  logs for the lonely caches and the other 13 I just found the day of the event, I added a link to the lonely cache game page. Just doing that could make a little difference here and there when I am out hunting lonely caches. We need to find the ones out there to keep the game board moving around.

    ***Opinions expressed are mine alone and will change based upon new information. ***

    #2036119

    Team Northwoods
    Participant


    Any small changes can be done this year but any point type changes, mileage points etc. would probably take place starting January 2016 correct? We are already months into this years game. Not that I wouldn’t mind extra points for running north of me over 50 miles as a crow flies. The Most Wanted could probably be added anytime too. There is no rush on this, we have some time to get it all figured out for the extra point side correct?

    ***Opinions expressed are mine alone and will change based upon new information. ***

    #2036120

    Team Northwoods
    Participant


    Changes to the LCG should and always have been driven by the members that play the game. While I agree that some of the things discussed and decided by the BOD don’t require input form the membership (that’s why we have a BOD), I don’t think that this isn’t one of those things. If the forum goes crazy on one of the ideas, wouldn’t it be negligent of the BOD not to implement that idea it it’s reasonable?

    I completely agree. Especially with the reasonable part. I just want to know more and make us look organized when we go to the members. They look to us as the authority and any prior information we cobble together will help us better answer and pull ideas from the members.

    ***Opinions expressed are mine alone and will change based upon new information. ***

    #2036121

    Noonan
    Participant


    I wish we had this game out here!
    I really like the idea of a most wanted list because so many caches have been on the list for so long, while many that just make the list get found quickly.

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