A Disturbing Trend

[Cheesehead Dave]

@Trudy & the beast wrote:

@Cheese-Wis wrote:

It was determined that no guidelines were violated.

Where do we draw the line. If 100 feet is ok, how about 200 feet? Is within a mile acceptable for not exact? I believe that the guideline was violated when the cache owner did not make an effort to provide coordinates within the limits of acceptable error.

Foul! 😡

“The coordinates are for the parking area. The cache is located somewhere in the ten acre park. Good luck!”

🙄

[Cheese-Wis]

The quote:

The coords. on this one are purposly not exact. They will bring you to the center, but thats not where it is… Or is it???

The coordinates are as exact as any other cache. I discussed the changing to a puzzle cache if they are not. The hider assured me they were accurate. Otherwise it would not have been published.

[Buy_The_Tie]

There was (no longer active) a multi-cache in the greater Milwaukee area that the owner purposefully “de-tuned” the final co-ords to make the find more challenging. This was over 2 years ago…. I would have to imagine it is still happening today. But let’s not go out on a witch hunt.

If you find the co-ords off for a single stage cache, simply post the correct co-ords as part of your log.

If it is a multi-cache, ask the owner to update the co-ords for the final location via PM or e-mail.

[TyeDyeSkyGuy]

To defend myself, and the admin Cheese Wis, the coords are exact. This is MY cache we are speaking of here. The coords are not off. If you are not familiar with my NEMESIS series of caches, you may not understand. There are 10 caches in this series, 9 published so far. They are all, for the most part, extremely challenging. One in fact posts 5-6 more times more DNF’s than finds. And after speaking to my fellow cachers at the recent Ice Cream on the Lake cache event, it seems most enjoy the new challenges over the humdrum “oh look there it is” you can see from 25 feet away. To the point. Yes, the cache description reads “The coords. on this one are purposely not exact.” But that is simply to throw off the uninitiated to the NEMESIS series. I pride myself on having exact coords, hell you need them to find most of my caches. I personally love having to look around to find others caches, as long as it does not destroy the nature around it. That is why I carefully pick and choose where these caches are placed, so that nature will not be disrupted by all the searching. This particular cache took me nearly 6 weeks to find the proper placement for. Anyway, I hope you all enjoy the series. Please don’t take caching so seriously… It’s meant to be fun! 😆

[marc_54140]

Ok, I think we need to know which cache this is, so we can look at the page. Is it a puzzle?

DeeJay, give us the GC # ?

[Team B Squared]

@marc_54140 wrote:

Ok, I think we need to know which cache this is, so we can look at the page. Is it a puzzle?

DeeJay, give us the GC # ?

It looks like it is probably this one… GCX7D4

I’m not positive, but it sounds right.

This series does sound like a lot of fun!

[TyeDyeSkyGuy]

Yes, that is the correct cache.

NEMESIS #9

[Commander Bob]

@marc_54140 wrote:

😥 I agree with what the Major says, but ………

DeeJay mentions the cache actually states the coords are not correct, on purpose!

DeeJay mentions ONE specific cache where the owner states the coords are not correct on purpose…..what I’m asking is, where is this so called “trend”?
`CB

[MajorBrat]

@Bushwhacking Queen wrote:

@MajorBrat wrote:

It’s kind of a pain to be off of here for a while, only to return and find notes from people who think they’re better than the rest of us. In the instance you metioned, there’s nothing really to say. As for the rest of the so called “trend”…give me a break! I personally find it very hard to believe that people hide caches with the intentions of making seekers go to the wrong place. Trend…indeed!

Just imagine the pain to be attacked immediately by you once you do get back on.

Yeah, and I know what you’re thinking — I’m just saying what a lot of people are thinking.

Ouch! I guess you really put me in my place didn’t you? NOT! Perhaps the “attack” was done by you…to me! You really should get over yourself Diane! Try reading his post, then mine again…maybe you would understand why I said what I did. Oops…nevermind, I forgot that you don’t ever even try to understand my questions, or responses. I forgot that you just like to tell everyone how mean I am and how I like to attack everyone. Yep, you sure figured me out! (By the way, you may want to see Marc’s reply to what I said. He agrees with me…does that make him mean too?)

Oh yeah…I’m just saying what a lot of people are thinking too!

[TyeDyeSkyGuy]

@Commander Bob wrote:

@marc_54140 wrote:

😥 I agree with what the Major says, but ………

DeeJay mentions the cache actually states the coords are not correct, on purpose!

DeeJay mentions ONE specific cache where the owner states the coords are not correct on purpose…..what I’m asking is, where is this so called “trend”?
`CB

As I stated in my earlier post. This IS MY cache we are talking about here, called “NEMESIS #9 Playing Games (with your mind)” As you can clearly see by it’s title, it’s meant to be decieving. The coords are spot on, but the cache page reads that they purposly are not. This is part of the series. It is meant to be deceptive as you can see by the title of said cache. Cachers who have done this series, or any of my other 16 caches can tell you that the coords. are all spot on.

If you start the series with #9 first, I can see that you copuld get confused… and I hope so! It’s meant to be that way, hence the name “playing with your mind”

Whom ever it was that stated this area was 100′ x 100′ was wat off. I believe it’s more like 15′ x 15′. The cache reads “this will bring you to the center of the jungle gym but thats not where the cache is… or is it?” Well, that is where the cache is. I didn’t measure it exactly, however, it is within a foot or two of dead center of this area. So if you think about it, my staements on the cache page may seem misleading, but as usual, they are not, and will actually lead you right to the cache. This cache can be done without a GPS very easily, it was designed that way, as are ALL but one or two of the series. This series is about using your brain, without having to solve a puzzle. They are all quite simple to find once you get to know my style. Thats why theres only 10 in the series.

Anyway, enjoy my caches, and watch out for my next series if you think these were bad!!! 😈

[MajorBrat]

I wouldn’t worry about it too much tyedyeskyguy. There’s always going to be someone who disagrees with you anyhow. It really doesn’t matter if your numbers are exact or not. What you put on the cache page is rarely the same as what someone else gets on their GPSR when they reach the same location.

Bob and I took a peek at this series and want to get started on it when we return from vacation. No worries for us though, we have 4 GPSR’s…surely one of them will be right. 😆
MB

[EnergySaver]

What seems to be obvious to me … this is a series of caches that have some special “mystery” concept/appeal to them … the owner of the caches doesn’t want to spoil their hard work by explaining it to us on this Forum … but since the approver knows what’s up, they’re ok with it. Seems like we’re prying into the “secrets” and we should leave it rest and go find them!

[Ray]

tyedyeskyguy wrote:

“this will bring you to the center of the jungle gym but thats not where the cache is… or is it?” Well, that is where the cache is.[/ quote]

Oh 😳

[Commander Bob]

I guess I haven’t made myself clear enough. I have absolutely no problem with this one cache in question. If the hider states the numbers are off or not, and if in fact they are or are not, is NOT what I’m getting at. What I am asking is this: Where is this “TREND“? The title of this thread is “A Disturbing Trend“. I see no trend. I see one cache that one person seems to have a problem with. Where are all the other caches that make up this trend? Is this a real problem, or was the title sensationalized to make us believe there is, when in fact, none exists. It seems to me to be the latter. There is already one black eye that Wisconsin geocaching has taken recently, (AKA the Appleton incident), and we certainly don’t need to be creating more negative aspects of geocaching, especially when it’s unfounded.
So I’ll ask again, and specifically to Team Deejay, what other caches are among this trend that you find disturbing?
~CB

[marc_54140]

Ok, I see how this cache is going to work. Do not have a problem with it.

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