are you deleting temp caches?

[TyeDyeSkyGuy]

Sorry, last time, I swear!

[Green Bay Paddlers]

It’s funny. I log into these forums a few times a year to see what is new in the WGA. Imagine my amazement that I see that we are now caving to outside pressure on the issue of logging temps. I always admired the WGA for standing up against those who flame away in the GC.com forums about those that log temps.

Temp caches are caches. You plug in the coordinates, you find it, you log it. Pretty simple philosophy in my eyes.

The WGA can take this new approach if they would like. However, I have no intention of going back and deleting my finds. I’d much rather see people deleting parking lot micros at Wal-Mart. But that’s another argument! 🙂

Glad to be back in the forum. Hopefully we’ll see some of you out on the trails.

🙂

Jeff

[furfool]

What is the definition of a temporary cache? I have seen new caches pop up only to be disabled a couple of days later and then archived a couple of months after that. To me, that’s pretty temporary.

[3 Hawks]

@tyedyeskyguy wrote:

My finger slipped.

Would you please stop hitting that poor horse in the crotch!!

[3 Hawks]

@Lostby7 wrote:

Not sure how your remarks could be taken wrong Bec…they seemed very innocuous to me.

@greyhounder wrote:

Yep — I did it. Took out over 100 temp cache logs. I left them as notes.

Bec

Bec stated her personal position and then switched hats and stepped in as mediator. Excuse me for putting two and two together.

You can’t post a topic like this without opening up a can of worms.

So why would anyone, who believes there is nothing wrong with the practice, take the time to go back and delete (or switch them to notes) their event temp find logs??? Do you see the paradox???

[Lostby7]

@3 Hawks wrote:

So why would anyone, who believes there is nothing wrong with the practice, take the time to go back and delete (or switch them to notes) their event temp find logs??? Do you see the paradox???

“Paradox” -50 cents for cool word use.

I think for me and perhaps for some others the practice isn’t necessarily wrong, but rather it is simply wrong for us. Being a noob at one time I thought that’s what you were supposed to do in order to tell the cache owner about all the finds you made and how much you appreciated each find. I saw people post as “Attended” not as “notes” so that’s what I did.

I have defended the temp logging practice many time on the GC boards as I feel it is up to each person to log the way they wish….but this seems to be one of those things you really cannot swing people on.

I cringe each time this topic is brought up as some one always has strong feelings about it and embers begin to burn. To be honest it all seems kinda silly to me.

[Team Hemisphere Dancer]

Just remember that this thread was not started with the intent to start a heated discussion on wether this practice was morally or ethically against the ‘rules” of the game. I was started to see if anybody else had a change of heart and decided to delete their temp event finds. Nothing more than that.

[Barry Butrymowicz]

[3 Hawks]

[Barry Butrymowicz]

@3 Hawks wrote:

Blah, blah, blah……

The cache owner retains the right to determine who is able to log a find and they get to set the requirements. That is also in the rules of the game.

I always love it when people just pick out the parts of rules/laws that only apply to their particular argument and ignore the rest

Well go and find the info that supports your side of the arguement

[Team Hemisphere Dancer]

Once Again

@Team Hemisphere Dancer wrote:

Just remember that this thread was not started with the intent to start a heated discussion on whether this practice was morally or ethically against the ‘rules” of the game. I was started to see if anybody else had a change of heart and decided to delete their temp event finds. Nothing more than that.

[gotta run]

Ok, take a deep breath and say it with me:

Its….a…..GAME. Y’all ain’t hurtin’ no one no matter what way you play it as long as you leave nothing but footprints in your search and leave the caches in as good a shape or better than you found them in.

Honestly…

On the Left Side of the Road...

[gotta run]

As an aside, the way letterboxing solves this is to specify the number of boxes per LB# and to allow you to record how many of those boxes you’ve found. Anyway, enabling gc to specify the number of caches per event (or “loggable caches per GC#) would seem to solve the problem, allowing number hunters to happily log away and for the purists to feel good that they are not bending the rules.

Of course, that would require an infrastructure change on gc’s part but if, as has been asserted here, they are planning to chnage the logging mechanism anyway to prevent multi-logging, would they consider making a change in the other direction instead?

On the Left Side of the Road...

[3 Hawks]

@sweetlife wrote:

@3 Hawks wrote:

Blah, blah, blah……

The cache owner retains the right to determine who is able to log a find and they get to set the requirements. That is also in the rules of the game.

I always love it when people just pick out the parts of rules/laws that only apply to their particular argument and ignore the rest

Well go and find the info that supports your side of the arguement

It’s all right there for the whole world to see. Just five minutes of light searching turned up this. I could have gone to the gc.com forums to capture a few choice quotes (pro and con) from the game’s creators, but I’ll leave that up to you.

“Are there any variations in the game?”
“YES! We strongly encourage it, actually. Geocaching is a game that constantly reinvents itself, and the rules are very flexible.” Maybe this flexibility statement should be revisited???

“How long do caches exist?”
“It all depends on the location of the cache and its impact on the environment and the surrounding areas. Caches could be permanent, or temporary.”

Other Related Stuff Found In GC.COM’s Guidelines.
“For all physical caches, there must be a logbook, scroll or other type of log for geocachers to record their visit.”

“The cache owner will assume all responsibility of their cache listings. The responsibility of your listing includes quality control of posts to the cache page. Delete any logs that appear to be bogus, counterfeit, off topic, or not within the stated requirements.” In this context, the terms stated requirements refer to those of the cache owner.

“If you wish to hide caches for an event, bring printouts to the event and hand them out there.”

[benny7210]

@gotta run wrote:

Ok, take a deep breath and say it with me:

Its….a…..GAME. Y’all ain’t hurtin’ no one no matter what way you play it as long as you leave nothing but footprints in your search and leave the caches in as good a shape or better than you found them in.

Honestly…

IMHO… This statement says it all. ❗ ❗ 😀 😀

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