Consideration in the hunt

[The Happy Hodag!]

I’m afraid this concern can be said of both finders and hiders. I found one cache last week that was in a half in of water in it’s hiding spot with countless logs stating that the cache was waterlogged. The cache owners response to previous logs? “Just place the cache upright.” I’m just waiting for a NM log on that one.

Speaking of being a placer here, I realize there is a history of suspicious cache placements in the Green Bay area (as in two bomb scares) and a lot of those being near businesses/homes/etc. This is why I don’t care to place caches too close to homes or businesses if I can avoid them. Call me old fashioned, but that’s just one placer’s opinion.

On another note, I just came back from doing maintenance on one of my caches where finders stated it was water logged, and I don’t expect much out of finders except to keep the cache in place for future finders and myself.

-The Happy Hodag!

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[gotta run]

@huffinpuffin2 wrote:

Sorry, but I beg to differ = Nope.

IMO, the sport really can’t be exclusionary.

As TBC notes, there is a small percentage of problem cachers….for whatever reason.

Expect them, prepare for them, and then deal with the problems caused by the few.

My intent is not to exclude anyone, only to express agreement/dismay over lack of consideration. That extends to hunting caches, writing logs, parking in handicapped spaces, watching little league games without yelling at kids and volunteer umpires…whatever…

On the Left Side of the Road...

[hack1of2]

@Trekkin and Birdin wrote:

I mentioned irresponsible caching behaviors in another post. I know this is not the group to address, but I’m wondering if we can all put our thoughts together to address it.

Another thought, which I don’t think has been directly addressed, is potentially applicable to this group. It probably won’t be a very popular observation though…

Once in a while I come across a cache that inevitably leads cachers to pry open, poke, twist, or sometimes destroy structures that are not the cache. I don’t know how we can prevent it; people are still going to hide them in these situations. They’re often clever placement and satisfying, IF you got it right. I would suggest when hiding a cache one should ask themselves “Will cachers potentially damage other nearby objects or structures while attempting to find this?” Just this past week I found (actually, DNF) two such caches – one in Madison and one in Green Bay. The one in GB was at a playground with plastic and metal climbing structures/slides. You could see the damage from what looked like parts that were pried or poked that weren’t intended to come off or open. Not to mention it was a high mini-muggle area. The other in Madison, also in a high-muggle area, required so much force that I was afraid I was going to break it. And maybe that wasn’t even the cache, although I’m pretty sure it was. I aborted before it broke. Both had at least 6 favorites votes too.

[GetMeOutdoors]

Public humiliation has always been an effective agent of change.

[Team Black-Cat]

@GetMeOutdoors wrote:

Public humiliation has always been an effective agent of change.

That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.

😛

[GetMeOutdoors]

Actually, speaking of those who are generally inconsiderate, I recently had to archive some caches that were on land owned by a local golf course. That section of land is away from the actual course and being there did not interfere with the golfers in any way. The reason I had to archive them: People (non-geocachers) were walking their dogs through that section of the golf course land then out onto the actual golf course WHILE people were playing! And to top that – they kept letting their dogs poop on the course. So the management had to post no trespassing signs and actually FENCE OFF some of the trails. In addition to these retarded dog owners, cross country skiiers were going out on the coarse before there was enough snow on the ground and skiing across the ROPED OFF GREENS which was peeling up the “blanket” they put on them for the winter and destroying the green turf.

The course has allowed people to use their land in these ways for YEARS and now people are disrespecting the land and have ruined the fun for many responsible individuals.

So yes, unfortunately, anyone can play. Just like anyone can own a dog.

[GetMeOutdoors]

@Team Black-Cat wrote:

@GetMeOutdoors wrote:

Public humiliation has always been an effective agent of change.

That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.

😛

LOL! Yes, stupid – but true, no?

[Astro_D]

You know we reached a sad state when the Cub Scouts had to introduce a belt loop and pin to teach about Manners!

[Timberline Echoes]

Trying to be careful here but a peeve I have shared before is not only the destruction of things by finders but that of placers. In the name of “cleverness” wooden structures are being “drilled” so that a container can be hidden within. I am afraid that when the “authorities” find out these places will be off limits for caching all together. Don’t want to be the caching police but yet I think something needs to get done about this.

Mrs. TE

[Mathman]

@TeamCabana wrote:

There are plenty of premium members who are irresponsible also. I know of one member who destroyed a cache in my area that was very creative and I’m sure took some time to come up with.

I would have to agree with Team Cabana on this. 2 years ago I decided to place my first and only “Premium” members cache since it was a Tb/Geocoin hotel. I wanted to eliminate missing bugs and coins. Needless to say, after 1 year I had at least 4 coins that were missing from the cache and never , to my recollection, found again. I decided to open it up to all and haven’t had problems yet. In theory, the “Members” only cache sounds good but isn’t necessarily the solution.

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