crappy logs bugging me

[CodeJunkie]

Headline: Reaching out and educating pays off

This is more on the placing side, but after seeing some questionable placements last night the CO contacted me for my very straightforward comments on the cache page. CO and I exchanged a couple of emails late last night and things are good. He archived 1 and is moving the other. Shame on me for jumping on him like I did, but thankfully we were able to “talk” and resolve things. He now has a better understanding of the other issues involved such as public perception and use of “public” property. Things really appear to have gone well and what a great chance to help educate a new cacher thats excited about hiding. No 4 letters words exchanged, no non-sunny places mentioned, but a very honest email exchange with a good outcome.

[zuma]

@CodeJunkie wrote:

Headline: Reaching out and educating pays off

This is more on the placing side, but after seeing some questionable placements last night the CO contacted me for my very straightforward comments on the cache page. CO and I exchanged a couple of emails late last night and things are good. He archived 1 and is moving the other. Shame on me for jumping on him like I did, but thankfully we were able to “talk” and resolve things. He now has a better understanding of the other issues involved such as public perception and use of “public” property. Things really appear to have gone well and what a great chance to help educate a new cacher thats excited about hiding. No 4 letters words exchanged, no non-sunny places mentioned, but a very honest email exchange with a good outcome.

Excellent. Hopefully educating some of these new people will eventually make a difference. Hopefully more of the experienced players can lead by example.

z

[labrat_wr]

CJ I was a bit surprised to see that #10 was even published.

Disclaimer : Always answering to a higher power.

[gotta run]

Nothing surpises me any more with caches that are placed and published.

Just found one a few weeks ago that was, quite literally, on the ground at the edge of a sidewalk, in someone’s front yard. I do not believe the cache owner is the homeowner. The sidewalk terminated at the corner and the homeowner put a bench there on the lawn. The cache is a duct taped pill bottle laying in the grass at the foot of the bench. I was shocked, just shocked, to see that it has gone missing already.

On the Left Side of the Road...

[WStemple]

@gotta run wrote:

Nothing surpises me any more with caches that are placed and published.

Just found one a few weeks ago that was, quite literally, on the ground at the edge of a sidewalk, in someone’s front yard. I do not believe the cache owner is the homeowner. The sidewalk terminated at the corner and the homeowner put a bench there on the lawn. The cache is a duct taped pill bottle laying in the grass at the foot of the bench. I was shocked, just shocked, to see that it has gone missing already.

😥 😥 😥

[sandlanders]

@BigJim60 wrote:

@sandlanders wrote:

@BigJim60 wrote:

The other day I found a cache that I had dnf’ed in the past. The cache was a camo’ed bison tube lodged in a natural crevice in the bark of a very large, very old white pine. The bison has a history of popping out of the crevice and being found on the ground. The previous finder’s log included the following: “Found on ground. Rehide better per the way this game is suposed to be played.”

“Rehide better” in this case included carving a niche in the bark with a knife, cutting all the way through the bark to the sapwood. I can’t believe that anyone would believe that this is “the way this game is suposed to be played.”
I was sickened by this cacher’s actions.

That resulted in the cacche being disabled while the container was pulled and getting desapped, and allowing some time for the tree to heal. We didn’t want people thinking that it was OK to stick the cleaned container back in the gouge. We wrote a note on the cache page as to why the cache was disabled, but I doubt if the person who really needed to read it ever saw it.

I struggled for most of a day about whether or not I should contact that individual and express my feelings about his actions. I decided not to, but it still bothers me.

Same here, Jim, but I opted for the note on the cache page. Someone who would carve up one tree might carve up more in retaliation for what I might have said. Save a tree.

[Curly Girls]

@Curly Girls wrote:

The quick, short logs are becoming much more common. I just hit delete. When I get a wordy one, those are the kinds I like to read! Enjoy those when you do get them.

Life is too short to worry about stuff like this, but that is my opinion – I have friends battling cancer and mending from a trip to the ER this past weekend. Stuff like that puts things in perspective for me.

Just to clarify, when “I hit delete” I mean to the e-mail notification on the log. I have not deleted a log. Everyone plays different and logs different.

[Run N Search]

I agree with CodeJunkie and Curly Girls.
No one owes anything to anyone when logging.

I also don’t believe that lecturing a new cacher is the way to go. If they hang around long enough, and hide a few caches themselves, then they come around.
Normally it doesn’t bother me, but if it does, then I send a note saying “Hey, I see you found one of my hides today. Glad it was still intact. Welcome to the sport/hobby and I hope to see you on the trail sometime.”. It builds a little personal rapport.
Nine times out of ten, the next time they log one of my hides, I get a better log.

[zuma]

A more mellow response to crappy logs:

Hi friends,

You may wish to consider changing your log on GCxxxx, since this is not a park and grab cookie cutter cache deserving of a park and grab cut and paste log. Rather it is a big ammo can out for over 6 years in a nice spot, and probably deserves a decent log. Your choice, and I am sure it was just an oversight.

thanks

zuma/ralph

[WStemple]

I think I like this one the best so far. 🙂

[Barry Butrymowicz]

After all the TFTC logs that we recieved lately, it was great to read the puffins logs at our waterfall caches from last weekend.

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=9b04418a-7c32-4104-a8ee-331a70c1deb4

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=5a1ad6db-4cd7-41bf-a155-f9f393b83567

There were 6 other great logs inbetween these two, sounds like it was a great adventure

[WStemple]

I had a guy get pissed at me when I sent him a message because he posted ‘TFTC’ on my Barn Quilt caches. He did not want to spend a lot of time in front of the computer, away from his family.

While I respect his desire to be with the family, he did not even acknowledge the hours and miles that I rolled up to place those 100 caches. Just write one general log and paste the damn thing in the logs. Any CO with this many caches should not be bothered by that.

[Hardinfam]

As a CO I do love a good log, but as some one pointed out some people aren’t really good writers. This past summer my kids were in charge of the logs. I did point out a stamp log feature and they used that instead of putting a nice log. Since school has started I’ve taken back control of log writing. Please don’t judge people because they just stamp the log. Another cacher emailed me about the stamp my kids left. He didn’t bother check why it was a stamp. Getting my kids out of the house is difficult to say the least. If they are expected to write a long log they won’t come out. Please be kind.

[WStemple]

Just wanted to point out that we are not talking about the physical log, while a good few lines there are sometimes great also, but rather the online log entry (or lack of).

Most physical logs are not large enough to handle more than a simple signature/stamp/label.

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