Cut and Paste logs

[marc_54140]

Why are YOU so bothered about cut and pastes?

1. Most cachers probably have no idea what effort you put into the cache.
2. Most cachers probably do not care what effort you put into the cache.
3. Most cachers do not know you, so your hurt feelings …….
4. Most cachers do not have anything to say …. but TFTC.
5. If you really are so concerned about cut and pastes, perhaps ……

[RSplash40]

@lone_gunman wrote:

…….not necessarily coherent,

I fall in that category as well 8)

[-cheeto-]

@marc_54140 wrote:

Why are YOU so bothered about cut and pastes?

1. Most cachers probably have no idea what effort you put into the cache.
2. Most cachers probably do not care what effort you put into the cache.
3. Most cachers do not know you, so your hurt feelings …….
4. Most cachers do not have anything to say …. but TFTC.
5. If you really are so concerned about cut and pastes, perhaps ……

Considering you can’t finish any of your thoughts, I have no clue what you are…

[gotta run]

After a cache run of 40-70 in one day, who can remember?

Very interesting thought, that raises even more questions.

On the Left Side of the Road...

[seldom|seen]

Briefly (I know – not). Much of what often gets to me, despite knowing it is mostly unintentional, has to do with a level of appreciation for the effort and time invested. There are plenty of caches out there that don’t deserve much more that TFTC and consequentially the CP logs are expected. There are plenty of others like Skeleton Keys however, where the complexity of the set-up warrants some recognition of the owners efforts and creativity. It’s a huge spectrum to cover – four letters all the way to full thesis papers.

As expressed previously, the length and depth of logs usually reflect the DT rating. More effort and adventure results in more storyline to re-tell. I think when it gets sensitive, at least for me, is when the disparity between the DT and the log lengths is out of whack. I’m sure everyone would agree that a “TFTC” log on Skeleton Keys would be poor taste and outright bad manners (unless you were messing with the owners). This is probably why I get worked up when cachers don’t go the distance on puzzle caches – the time invested to make the solve is reflected in the CP logs and you know right off the bat with a CP log cachers missed out on the whole reason the cache was placed to begin with.

Now, some puzzle creators make puzzles with no greater intent than to simply make some headbanging cryptic puzzle to place between the cacher and the log sheet. But others create puzzles where the whole point is the puzzle not the final cache. If a puzzle creator invests 20-some hours into crafting a unique and difficult puzzle, he/she is simply going to be expecting a bit more storytelling about the adventure than a drive-by CP TFTC log because a few cachers decided to find difficult puzzle finals they didn’t solve.

But, as also expressed above, it’s anybody and everybody’s game and you can’t account for bad taste or poor judgment. Thankfully for every TFTC log there’s usually a well crafted, insightful and appreciative log to balance it. In fact, the expressive logs by a few close allies, like gotta_run and huffinpuffin, carry enough sentiment to buffer dozens of CP logs. These cachers, who give back back in the form of expressive logs, know what it means to the owners and we all thank them for it!

[Team Hemisphere Dancer]

Is this a cut and paste log? or is this worse?

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=2213cd64-5334-476c-9c9f-08b2c814b35d

[lone_gunman]

@RSplash40 wrote:

@lone_gunman wrote:

…….not necessarily coherent,

I fall in that category as well 8)

exhibit A:
6/7/2008 by Lone_Gunman
air muggy….bugspray wearing off….blood draining…talking like….william shatner…..tftc

[gotta run]

@Team Hemisphere Dancer wrote:

Is this a cut and paste log? or is this worse?

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=2213cd64-5334-476c-9c9f-08b2c814b35d

I’d call that “scan & upload”

On the Left Side of the Road...

[Team Hemisphere Dancer]

@gotta run wrote:

@Team Hemisphere Dancer wrote:

Is this a cut and paste log? or is this worse?

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=2213cd64-5334-476c-9c9f-08b2c814b35d

I’d call that “scan & upload”

So where is the well written log to show appreciation for the cache placers effort?

[gotta run]

@Team Hemisphere Dancer wrote:

So where is the well written log to show appreciation for the cache placers effort?

The log on the sheet looks pretty well written. At least, my penmanship isn’t nearly that good. 😉

On the Left Side of the Road...

[seldom|seen]

@Team Hemisphere Dancer wrote:

So where is the well written log to show appreciation for the cache placers effort?

@seldom|seen wrote:

(unless you were messing with the owners).

Didn’t realize there was a sore spot here. Obviously it took a little MORE effort to scan and post the certificate than to write a few lines of copy. I thought the owner would appreciate the humorous method of posting the find.

Sorry Hemi, if there’s any residual resentment, not my intent and anyone can visit any other cache I’ve found (Marc-exception) to see that I am usually pretty expressive when I log, even on the simple ones. And, it’s not like I didn’t post something very appropriate and praise-worthy to the cache some time after the FTF…

“
February 23, 2009 by seldom|seen (949 found)
Well, I have not been actively pursuing revisits for the LCG, but this cache in particular is very special and deserves a visit. After all, the FTF I got on this one will go down as the most memorable of all my finds for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the reward I got for that find which turned into one of my favorite TB’s, the Seldom Seeker.

All waypoints intact. I second-guessed myself on the final and it took a third pass to discover the container, even though I knew it had to be there. Everything is in decent shape. Dropped a lonely Jeep for incentive.
“

[SammyClaws]

[JimandLinda]

I still write down caches I will be seeking. It limits the # of finds in the period of time allotted, and I can put a little extra effort into the logs, as well as post pictures of interesting scenery. I could go paperless, but the system I’ve used is one of convenience and priorities. I can jot down notes and put PIX by the ones I have photos for.

I have put TFTC only on a few caches. If you have found those caches yourself, you know that was probably 3 letters too many anyway! The cache owner deserves a decent log for their decent hide!

I have never cut and pasted. I suppose I could but the online log is an important part of the fun. I enjoy reading ALL the logs that cachers have put time into.

[Team Hemisphere Dancer]

@seldom|seen wrote:

@Team Hemisphere Dancer wrote:

So where is the well written log to show appreciation for the cache placers effort?

@seldom|seen wrote:

(unless you were messing with the owners).

Didn’t realize there was a sore spot here. Obviously it took a little MORE effort to scan and post the certificate than to write a few lines of copy. I thought the owner would appreciate the humorous method of posting the find.

Sorry Hemi, if there’s any residual resentment, not my intent and anyone can visit any other cache I’ve found (Marc-exception) to see that I am usually pretty expressive when I log, even on the simple ones. And, it’s not like I didn’t post something very appropriate and praise-worthy to the cache some time after the FTF…

“
February 23, 2009 by seldom|seen (949 found)
Well, I have not been actively pursuing revisits for the LCG, but this cache in particular is very special and deserves a visit. After all, the FTF I got on this one will go down as the most memorable of all my finds for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the reward I got for that find which turned into one of my favorite TB’s, the Seldom Seeker.

All waypoints intact. I second-guessed myself on the final and it took a third pass to discover the container, even though I knew it had to be there. Everything is in decent shape. Dropped a lonely Jeep for incentive.
“

S|S, there really isn’t any resentment with this log. I was just trying to make a point that not everyone is going to write the perfect log on all caches there are many different factors going into why individuals do what they do. I myself don’t care how someone logs a cache, however I do enjoy when there is a personal touch to the log.

With that being said when I saw this yesterday I just got home from a long day in Madison where my daughter was starting her 3rd round of chemo for her brain tumor and all this thread seemed so damn silly to me in the big scheme. TFTC or a 500 word essay doesn’t mean a dam hill of beans to the stuff that really matters in life.

[zuma]

@Team Hemisphere Dancer wrote:

With that being said when I saw this yesterday I just got home from a long day in Madison where my daughter was starting her 3rd round of chemo for her brain tumor and all this thread seemed so damn silly to me in the big scheme. TFTC or a 500 word essay doesn’t mean a dam hill of beans to the stuff that really matters in life.

Aint that the truth. And without totally stealing the thread, I wish the best for your daughter. Sadly, I see this kind of personal trauma related to health crisis every day at work, and know how dramatically it affects patients and their families. Trully wishing you and yours the best.

zuma

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