DNF etiquette

[abron132]

So if you went in search of a cache and did not find it that time, but went back another time (say the next day) wouldn’t you log that cache as a DNF first and then add another log once found?

[CodeJunkie]

Depends. I usually log a DNF the same day it occurs. In the example, I’m assuming you found it the second trip. In that case I would just log a “Found” and mention in the log that it was your 2nd attempt, that you DNFed the day before, etc.

I usually only log a DNF if I’ve given it a really good attempt but didn’t find it. If I abandon based on time, muggles, etc. I may log a note (or note), but generally don’t log a DNF.

[billrwilson]

if i dnf i post as dnf ill have to try again. then if i find it the next day i say found it after second try.

[TheBalks]

I log all my dnf’s and try to do them on the same day as i went looking, I have had multiple days in a row of dnfs on the same cache and logged them all. when i find it i log the find, and leave all the dnfs there.

[JimandLinda]

I still like the idea of ‘sentinel’ caches. You must have (x) number of DNFs on your profile to log the cache as Found. But that is an ALR and not approved by GC.

Any options on that line of thought?

[abron132]

@JimandLinda wrote:

I still like the idea of ‘sentinel’ caches. You must have (x) number of DNFs on your profile to log the cache as Found. But that is an ALR and not approved by GC.

Any options on that line of thought?

I’m not sure what you mean by ‘sentinel’ cache or what ALR stands for, could you fill me in? Personally I would have logged it as a DNF first and then as a Find. I was just wondering because I had a cachers post on one of my newly placed caches a log that said “I was here last night but DNF. Went back today at 12:50 and found it STF still no FTF. Great hide. TFTC – SL”

But never posted a DNF first.

[Team_Sandman]

If I dont find it the forst time I will always DNF it and then if I go back and finaly find it I will relog a found log and will not edit my DNF log

[Barry Butrymowicz]

We have logged everyone of our DNF’s this year, just counted them and there was 86 this year.

[CodeJunkie]

@abron132 wrote:

I was just wondering because I had a cachers post on one of my newly placed caches a log that said “I was here last night but DNF. Went back today at 12:50 and found it STF still no FTF. Great hide. TFTC – SL”

I’ve done this as well if I’m pretty confident it’s there but I just didn’t find it and now I’m going back in the next day or so.

[-cheeto-]

I typically log most DNF’s as a DNF log. Especially if I am hunting caches away from my home area. I’m not too proud to log the first DNF on a new cache either 😀

[JimandLinda]

A ‘sentinel’ cache is kinda like a checkpoint. In order to log the find, you would need to have posted, say, 50 Did Not Find (DNF) logs before you get credit for the find (There would be an ACTUAL container at the posted coordinates).
But since Groundspeak (GC) (geocaching.com) has banned ALRs (Alternate Logging Requirements) from the game, this kind of cache is no longer possible. The 50 DNFs would be “optional”, and logs COULD be deleted at the discretion of the CO (Cache Owner). This, in turn, might make the cache less pleasing to find, with the risk of having their log deleted for not having 50 DNFs.

This idea was mentioned to me several years ago, by an experienced cacher, that had seen this ‘sentinel’ cache system in another state. About the time that I was planning one, GC banned the ALR caches, so it never happened.

Think about it… if you had a cache placed 1 mile from your home, but you couldn’t log it as found, wouldn’t you seek enough caches, as well as posting your DNFs, to log the find?
Maybe not, but there is no shame in logging ANY DNF, once, twice, thrice, on an attempt to find the hide!
I consider logging a DNF as a compliment to the hiding skill of the CO. Or, in the other direction, that the cache is missing! I have spoken to cachers at Events that have DNF’d a cache of ours in the previous week but didn’t log the DNF. Had they logged it, it might have saved some frustration on the next few cache seekers that DNF.

I don’t know the number of DNFs we have at this moment. But I logged one as DNF twice recently, and I’m about ready to hunt it again!

Wish me luck!

[CodeJunkie]

I just checked and have logged 103 DNF’s to date.

In regards to the “sentinal” cache – Peach107 has something close – It’s All In The Numbers – DNFs (GC1CENG) which allows additional logs for > 50 DNF’s. I wonder if this could be worked into a challenge cache?

[huffinpuffin2]

@JimandLinda wrote:

A ‘sentinel’ cache is kinda like a checkpoint. In order to log the find, you would need to have posted, say, 50 Did Not Find (DNF) logs before you get credit for the find (There would be an ACTUAL container at the posted coordinates). . .

Wish me luck!

Can’t you accomplish this by way of a challenge cache? Or a “Crazy DNFer”-type cache?

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And best of luck! (Nano in a Swamp?) 😉

[TheBalks]

hehe i just checked 113 dnfs and only 1133 smileys, 1 to 10 ratio or so, looks like i miss alot 🙂

[gotta run]

@huffinpuffin2 wrote:

Can’t you accomplish this by way of a challenge cache?

Hmmm…it’s a geocaching-related challege, but not related to specific caches….what sez deh reviewers?

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