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06/09/2009 at 1:32 am #1909293
@furfool wrote:
I also have to question group caching where the group finds 75-100 caches in 6-8 hours in an area they never cached in before, or anywhere for that fact. Looking at the conservative side of 75 caches in 8 hours, that comes out to one find every 6.4 minutes. It’s impossible.
This is something we’ve wondered, too. Our personal record for one day is 40 and we busted our humps for 11 hours to get those. How anyone can claim 100 or more in one day is beyond us. Are we just missing something?
06/09/2009 at 2:09 am #1909294@Captain and Mate wrote:
@furfool wrote:
I also have to question group caching where the group finds 75-100 caches in 6-8 hours in an area they never cached in before, or anywhere for that fact. Looking at the conservative side of 75 caches in 8 hours, that comes out to one find every 6.4 minutes. It’s impossible.
This is something we’ve wondered, too. Our personal record for one day is 40 and we busted our humps for 11 hours to get those. How anyone can claim 100 or more in one day is beyond us. Are we just missing something?
Yes, a very well planned route. Marc makes very planned routes that are printed out ahead of time. I did a route myself of Neenah. I used a yellow marker and laid out the route by hand and did 15 in 3 hours and 70 for the day(I limited my search to 2/2.5 and less).
Signing log takes very long. A special sticker can help speed things up. We used cache owner approved stickers when we drove down to Illinois to do the BOB series in which we had 105 caches in one day. Not unusual for Marc and I to do a 14 hour cache day and find 40 to 50 caches.
06/09/2009 at 2:12 am #1909295@furfool wrote:
Delete their log. I suspect that there is a lot of shenanigans going on. I have seen more than a few caches in the last couple of months where a cacher logged a find and never signed the log. I also have to question group caching where the group finds 75-100 caches in 6-8 hours in an area they never cached in before, or anywhere for that fact. Looking at the conservative side of 75 caches in 8 hours, that comes out to one find every 6.4 minutes. It’s impossible. They would have to split up and sign each other’s names. It’s one thing when they’re all together at the cache, but going out in different directions and signing everybody when everybody isn’t there, just isn’t right.
If everything goes really really good, and you dont get a long DNF or a long search with a find, and get a lot of short ones, it is possible to get 70 or so in a 12 hour day without running and without preplanning if caching with a group of 3-4. I know because that is what we have done on days without realy trying for numbers, and just getting lucky.
If you ran, which I do not and will not, I expect you could get more. If you preplaned and selected out all the interesting or challenging caches and limited yourself to PNGs you could get more too, but I cannot bring myself to do that either. I cannot imagine getting 100 caches in an 8 hour period though, because there generally are not that many short ones in close proximity and even if there were, it would not be much fun.
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06/09/2009 at 2:13 am #1909296My daughter and I did 84 in Nashville by 5pm in the afternoon. We were averaging 8 per hour and if we did the 3 more hours of sunlight we had we would have had over 100 easily. Getting on each others nerves is what did us in.
06/09/2009 at 2:45 am #1909297@Miata wrote:
Signing log takes very long.
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@Miata wrote:A special sticker can help speed things up.
Please tell me these aren’t the ones that take up 10 spots on my “initial only” micro log rolls and make me have to do maintenance runs more often! If so, you have my full permission to use the patented “Marc Method” of “signing” logs on all gotta run caches!
On the Left Side of the Road...06/09/2009 at 3:31 am #1909298@gotta run wrote:
@Miata wrote:
Signing log takes very long.
😯 ❗
@Miata wrote:A special sticker can help speed things up.
Please tell me these aren’t the ones that take up 10 spots on my “initial only” micro log rolls and make me have to do maintenance runs more often! If so, you have my full permission to use the patented “Marc Method” of “signing” logs on all gotta run caches!
No. The only time we used them they were dots recomended by the cache owner, but I know what you mean.
06/09/2009 at 3:19 pm #1909299Since I’m really just a displaced Cheesehead currently living in Mn and have logged numerous Caches in my home state, I feel ok with sounding in on this thread. Play the game as you like I guess. It’s kind of like when you bring in a box of candy to sell for your kid at work and post a sign to please leave a dollar if you take one. Ever wonder about the integrity of those that make you come up short? The rules of our game state that if you are going to claim a find, your log-in needs to be on the PHYSICAL Cache log in addition to logging your experience on GC.com. More than once we’ve set out to see how many we can log in a day and to date the best we’ve done is 40. Could maybe have done half as many more if we were willing to continue on into the moon light. And maybe another half as much if we were in a known area that for what ever reason we’ve not logged the numerous P&Gs before. As for logging in excess of 100 in one day (not to mention in 8 hours), I for one am not sure if it was really done in accordance with our games guidelines. Just a little rambling on a topic that has caused some pretty good conversations in the past. Take it as you like. Commander & Chief.
06/09/2009 at 4:04 pm #1909300Not actually visiting and signing logs, and it being just about numbers, kinda defeats the whole fun of caching???
And those log stickers, IMO, the’re fine if the log is a -huge- piece of paper, but I have seen them in Micros, which is unacceptable. On a small logsheet, just whip out the pen quick and sign that one.
06/09/2009 at 5:00 pm #1909301Follow -up-
Checked the physical log sheet on a few caches, they are up to date…
with the exception of the drive-by cacher. So as reviewer noted, the logs will be deleted, b4 i do this i will check all of my caches they logged as found.06/10/2009 at 6:52 pm #1909302FYI, what I do when changing out a log is go through the online logs and look for people who haven’t signed. If I find one, I email them and ask. So far, I have found 5 missing sigs. 2 had logged the wrong cache (there is a virtual nearby), 1 forgot his pen and didn’t log that, and the others were logged as a group with a not obvious name. The “wrong cache” guys deleted their own (both came back and found my cache later), and of course, I didn’t need to delete the others.
06/10/2009 at 10:44 pm #1909303As a cache owner, the only time I even look at log sheets is when I replace them or archive the cache, and it’s not to compare what’s been logged, but simply to see who had visited over time. I don’t worry about how anyone plays the game. I usually give all the benefit of the doubt. As for 100 in a day; in this day and age, I believe it is possible to do, especially in groups, but I can only imagine how drained these people would feel by the end of their run. I know of 4 people who recently logged over 50 in a run, and almost all of that was done on bicycles. I’d be hard pressed to believe that someone would drive by and not even get out of the car to search, let alone sign, but I can see how someone could have a pen run out of ink, no pen, sign in a group name, log the wrong cache, accidently log twice, or find the log unsignable at times.
06/11/2009 at 2:41 am #1909304Yes… somebody logged one of those on one of my caches… I assumed he felt it was just faster and easier to send it from his phone and he prefers not to write personal logs. Fine. I don’t care about that (although I do love reading logs on my caches).
HOWEVER…. This was a tricker hide with a few DNFs in a row. So I thought to myself, “Oh good. The cache is there. Now I don’t have to check on it.” Well then a group of cachers came to the area and I assured them the cache was just recently found. After they told me they couldn’t find it, I went out to check on it, and sure enough, it was missing. So I wonder how the Geocache Navigator person found the cache??
The minimum requirement for hiding a cache is a container and log. Therefore, the minimum requirement for FINDING a cache is ummm…. FINDING THE CACHE!
06/13/2009 at 10:49 am #1909305@Team Venom wrote:
Follow -up-
Checked the physical log sheet on a few caches, they are up to date…
with the exception of the drive-by cacher. So as reviewer noted, the logs will be deleted.Just curious what happened with this…any feedback from the loggers?
On the Left Side of the Road...06/13/2009 at 2:44 pm #1909306The cacher in question e mailed me and said” My daughters signed the log”. NOTE: I checked the logs there is no date, no team name and a bunch of unreadable scribbles ( so is that the signed part? …does that stand…)
There is also a cache off the beaten path that this team shows as “logged by Trimble” and there is nothing in the physical log( so the kids say they found it, and mom and dad log it as a find?). Ok, maybe I’m being a knob about this, but I feel that by allowing this it sets a bad example.
What’s to stop me from driving down the interstate to my in-laws in Iowa and logging every cache my Trimble goes by(it would be a very, very large number)… other than my own honesty.06/13/2009 at 2:50 pm #1909307Does that trimble application only “let you” log a find if you are geographically close to a cache? that would be pretty cool if that’s what it does…
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