Drive by caching?

[hogrod]

@jerrys dad wrote:

The problem here, in this thread, is not with the way it was logged online, but the way it was found. I know I don’t put out difficult finds out, but if I put a cache out, I want you to physically find my cache. Just getting to the area doesn’t qualify for a find, if it did, there wouldn’t be a DNF on the drop down, when you log your find on the website.

As an example lets say I go to find a cache that you hid near a local fishing hole.
I get there and right at ground zero is a couple guys that obviously aren’t leaving anytime soon. I decided instead of coming back at a later date to ask them how the fishing is going and as we talk I look for the cache discreetly.
After a few minutes of talking and secretly looking I spot the cache in its hiding spot. I have found the cache, yet there is no way of retrieving it without a follow up visit.

To me this is clearly a find even though the log was not signed. I will continue to log any cache I physically find, even if I don’t sign the log.

Drive by caching is another thing altogether, why even bother geocaching then?

[jerrys dad]

@hogrod wrote:

@jerrys dad wrote:

The problem here, in this thread, is not with the way it was logged online, but the way it was found. I know I don’t put out difficult finds out, but if I put a cache out, I want you to physically find my cache. Just getting to the area doesn’t qualify for a find, if it did, there wouldn’t be a DNF on the drop down, when you log your find on the website.

As an example lets say I go to find a cache that you hid near a local fishing hole.
I get there and right at ground zero is a couple guys that obviously aren’t leaving anytime soon. I decided instead of coming back at a later date to ask them how the fishing is going and as we talk I look for the cache discreetly.
After a few minutes of talking and secretly looking I spot the cache in its hiding spot. I have found the cache, yet there is no way of retrieving it without a follow up visit.

To me this is clearly a find even though the log was not signed. I will continue to log any cache I physically find, even if I don’t sign the log.

Drive by caching is another thing altogether, why even bother geocaching then?

Isn’t that what I said “I want you to physically find my cache.” But an excuse of mosquito’s brings that into question! And I bet you would note the fisherman and that you found it, in your log

[Mathman]

@jerrys dad wrote:

@hogrod wrote:

@jerrys dad wrote:

The problem here, in this thread, is not with the way it was logged online, but the way it was found. I know I don’t put out difficult finds out, but if I put a cache out, I want you to physically find my cache. Just getting to the area doesn’t qualify for a find, if it did, there wouldn’t be a DNF on the drop down, when you log your find on the website.

As an example lets say I go to find a cache that you hid near a local fishing hole.
I get there and right at ground zero is a couple guys that obviously aren’t leaving anytime soon. I decided instead of coming back at a later date to ask them how the fishing is going and as we talk I look for the cache discreetly.
After a few minutes of talking and secretly looking I spot the cache in its hiding spot. I have found the cache, yet there is no way of retrieving it without a follow up visit.

To me this is clearly a find even though the log was not signed. I will continue to log any cache I physically find, even if I don’t sign the log.

Drive by caching is another thing altogether, why even bother geocaching then?

Isn’t that what I said “I want you to physically find my cache.” But an excuse of mosquito’s brings that into question! And I bet you would note the fisherman and that you found it, in your log

What if they are really BIG mosquitos???

[furfool]

I think if something legitimate prevents one from signing the log, that should be left up to the cache owner on whether or not to allow the find. In my eyes, one would have to describe the cache container, where it was hidden, and the circumstances preventing one from signing it.

There are a couple of caches just a few miles from my house. Both of them have to be retrieved by climbing trees. I have been at both of them a few times but have never gone up to retrieve them. I’m not about to slip and bust my head open on rocks. Should I be able to claim them as finds? I think not. Once I did take a find without signing the log. It was an easy find. A film canister under the edge of a bleacher seat. The only place around where one could hide anything. When I got to GZ, I found all of the little pieces of it chopped up by a lawn mower that had just left the area. I emailed the owner for maintenance and she said, “That’s it, go ahead and log the find.” I wasn’t even looking for permission to log it. I would have signed it the next time I was out that way. That was 26 miles from home.

If I don’t have to sign any logs, I’ll really be a well rounded cacher by the end of the week. I figure I will have completed all of those challenges out there. Let’s not forget about all of those Fox Valley puzzle caches. Wow! I just found all of them. Not bad for a few hours of driving around. I can’t wait until there are more. I’ll push the envelope a little next weekend. I’ll just look and see where the caches are on the map. That should count, right.

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The Complete Idiot’s Guide to Geocaching, Second Edition

1. Register for a free membership.
2. Click “Hide & Seek a Cache.”
3. Enter your postal code and click “search.”
4. Choose any geocache from the list and click on its name.
5. Enter the coordinates of the geocache into your GPS Device.
6. Use your GPS device to assist you in finding the hidden geocache.
7. Sign the logbook and return the geocache to its original location.
8. Share your geocaching stories and photos online.

[gotta run]

We establish “winter caching rules” that allow “touch and go” for our caches that are iced in.

Why? Because I got tired of replacing containers that got broken when people got out pickaxes just to excavate the slip of paper to sign. 😡 And frankly even if its a gorgeous day, if there are tons of people around I’d be thrilled if you made a “visual find” rather than expose the cache to the general populace.

There are always extenuating circumstances. I think holding fast to the “you must sign the paper” under all circumstances is unrealistic and needless.

Guess that makes me a scofflaw!

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[furfool]

@gotta run wrote:

We establish “winter caching rules” that allow “touch and go” for our caches that are iced in.

Why? Because I got tired of replacing containers that got broken when people got out pickaxes just to excavate the slip of paper to sign. 😡 And frankly even if its a gorgeous day, if there are tons of people around I’d be thrilled if you made a “visual find” rather than expose the cache to the general populace.

There are always extenuating circumstances. I think holding fast to the “you must sign the paper” under all circumstances is unrealistic and needless.

Guess that makes me a scofflaw!

I can fully understand that. However, if I were to find one of your “iced in” caches, I would also email you with a description of the circumstances that it was in. For example, “I found the container frozen to the ground in a hole at the base of a tree. It was well concealed by the pine tree growing 4 feet away from it.” This leaves nearly no doubt that I was there and found it.

I guess I liken a drive by cacher, if you will, to an arm chair cacher logging a virtual. I think there needs to be some kind of communication with the cache owner.

I’m not looking to get anyone’s dander up here. I’m just speaking in general and stating my opinion on the subject.

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