Elitist caches?

[Yawningdog]

I’ll be up in Bayfield over the Fourth of July. Count on me to do my part!

[cap kal]

placed one in Langlade county. I hope to get to Shawano soon I have a great spot in mind. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=25464

[arffer]

Hey Cap Kal! Love your ‘Dead End’ idea, what a great new twist!

And thanks for covering a new county, we’re getting closer…

[Cheesehead Dave]

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Originally posted by cap kal:
placed one in Langlade county.

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Huh. Lived in this state all my life, and I swear I have never heard of Langlade County. True, It is a part of the state I’ve never been to, but you’d think in 32 years, the name would have come up sometime…

[cap kal]

Nothing ever really happens up here so I wouldn’t be too shocked you haven’t heard of it. Although last week we were in the papers for a couple of freak motorcycle accidents and a mass murderer. I even read about us in the Milwaukee papers while I was down there

[cap kal]

I looked at the map for Wisconsin the other day and saw we are getting closer to our goal of having a cache in every county.
The Rock by Ruprecht in Green County http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=26224
I mistakenly posted before that there was also a new one in Marquette County but there isn’t. I was reading it wrong sorry.

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[tntyz]

Seems like it would be easy to set up a virtual cache for each county. They all have a county seat with a county courthouse. . . But this would definitely be more fun with actual caches. Which makes me wonder about the actual rules for successful completion of the 72 Counties (or 71 + 1) Cache. Would virtuals be allowed in the count? What about locationless caches? That could be a real bugger to administer.

As to the elitist argument against – When you think about it, just about every single cache is elitist by some definition. How many caches have you gone to that are truly accessible to each and every person? If some thing or activity isn’t available to all, doesn’t that make it elitist? Does anyone feel that caches requiring special gear (SCUBA, climbing equipment) should be dropped because they are elitist? IMHO, no cache should be barred because someone thinks that it’s out of reach for the typical caching public.

Tony

[arffer]

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Originally posted by tntyz:
Would virtuals be allowed in the count? What about locationless caches? That could be a real bugger to administer.
Tony

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Personally, I’d cast my vote in favor of allowing virtuals, but not in favor of a locationless that the hunnter happened to fulfill in a given county.

I’d use the criteria that for each cache they list as a find in a given county, when you go look at that cache’s page the co-ordinates MUST be located in that county.

My two cents worth, but its really up to whoever becomes the creator/owner of the ‘Statewide Cache’.

I’m going to throw this out for discussion

Is there anyone who is already planning on creating the ‘Statewide’ cache once there is a cache in every county? Or is there any interest in having WGA sponser/create that cache to recognize those that have found a cache in every Wisconsin county?

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[The Searchers]

We agree with CacheCows that Virtual caches would be ok but not locationless. Thats a good idea for WGA to sponsor that type of cache and provide some direction if no one else has started on it.
Bill and Debbie
The Searchers

[sbukosky]

As mentioned by others, the task is rather huge, except for Ken & Robin or Socko. It would seem fitting that a state organization sponsor such a cache program. I’m thinking that to make it a little less daunting, break the state up into districts or sectors. Each district would have it’s own winners cache with the big one for the first person to finish all districts and thus all counties. Perhaps to accumulate cache items, temporary caches could be placed in each district as an “add but don’t take” cache items or ante up, like the Three Card Poker cache. This would minimize the financial burden on the association. Or, out-right donations.

Just some thoughts.

[cap kal]

I’m sorry Sbukosky I don’t really understand what you were getting at in that last post. What do you mean by the districts? I agree that locationless caches should not be included and I am ok with virtuals. However I wouldn’t want a virtual to be created at every county seat just to fill the countys that don’t have caches yet. I have faith that we can get a cache in every county without having to go to that extream. I still don’t know about Menominee. Do you guys think it is a county or is it being left out?

[sbukosky]

I’m saying to break the state up into segments of counties that once caches are logged in each of those member counties, there be a winners cache for that district. People would be more likely to cover a district at a time so as to make an all state winners cache seem more attainable.

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Steve Bukosky
Waukesha

[cap kal]

I was driving alot today and it seems that when I do that my brain starts to work on overdrive. Well I was wondering what we do if the only cache in a county is the cache that the finder placed. I mean like how I am the only one to put a cache in Langlade or Oconto County. How then can I find a cache in that County?
The only problem that I see with having district caches is that then it would require making two trips to any given part of the state. It may be possible for me to cache an entire area of the state in one weekend but then I need to go home get the permission and location to cache the special district cache and then return to that area to actually do it. I’m not totally against that as an idea but it does seem like more of a pain. I ran into that debate with myself when I placed a reward cache.

[kbraband]

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Originally posted by cap kal:
I was driving alot today and it seems that when I do that my brain starts to work on overdrive. Well I was wondering what we do if the only cache in a county is the cache that the finder placed. I mean like how I am the only one to put a cache in Langlade or Oconto County. How then can I find a cache in that County?

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Alas, that is the quandry of the cache-placer. We know where all the best caches are (because we hid them), but we are not eligible to find them. But we continue to hide them anyway so others can enjoy.

[sbukosky]

I think with the growth in hunter numbers, that it should not be a problem. I only hope that the hunts are of a good quality. That is, an enjoyable hike and a container of items of interest, mainly to keep newer hunters and kids interested.

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Steve Bukosky
Waukesha

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